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Ce, Cet/ Cette & Ceci, Cela

I am confused which one to use. If I were to say: This book is mine, I would say Ce (because 'book' is a masculine noun) livre est le mienne. But why can't I say Cet livre est le mienne (or can I). Is it also fine to say: Ceci livre est le mienne?

I would love to know if some of these words would be used when talking in formal/ infromal ways. Or whether, ceci is used in writing and ce isn't suitable. Please be detailed, thank you.

July 20, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/Wiijimmy

Cet is used when the noun starts with a vowel (Cet animal) Ceci/Cela aren't used with nouns, as they are expansions of ça.

You can only say "ce livre est le mien*"

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/lala2178

How would I use Ceci/Cela in a sentence or two, please give examples.

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Wiijimmy

Ceci est un livre Cela est mon repas préféré

I'm pretty sure ceci and cela are interchangeable.

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/lala2178

thank you.

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Wiijimmy

De rien :)

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jenshero

It's 'ce livre' and not 'cet livre' because 'cet' is used for nouns which begin with a vowel or a silent consonant (though both ce and cet are for masculine nouns).

Also remember it is 'le mien' as 'mien' is the masculine, and '[la] mienne' is for feminine nouns only.

Hope this helps. I would talk about ceci etc., but I am not 100% confident so don't want to tell you something that I'm not sure is accurate. :-)

July 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/lala2178

Thank you.

July 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jenshero

No problem!

July 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Shamallow643

Hello!

I can help you because I'm French! ;)

Différence entre "ceci" et "cela" et entre "voici" et "voilà" La règle : "Ceci" et "voici" annoncent ce qui va être dit. ( it's after ) "Cela" et "voilà" font référence à ce qui vient d'être dit. ( it's before )

Les exemples : - Je vais te dire ceci : ... - Voilà, en quelques mots, ce qu'il m'a dit.

Les mots "ce, cette, cet, ces" sont des déterminants démonstratifs qui servent à montrer (désigner). Devant un nom ou un adjectif masculin commençant par "h" ou un voyelle, on utilise "cet" au lieu de "ce".

<pre>Exemples : ce cahier, cet hôpital cette leçon, ces maisons Exemples : ce lapin cet hôpital (le nom est au masculin et commence par un « h ») cet arbitre (le nom est au masculin et commence par une voyelle) </pre>

Les mots "ci" et "là" permettent d'insister.

<pre>Exemples : Nous achetons ce manteau-ci. Le mot « ci » est utilisé pour insister sur le manteau. Il a rit cette nuit–là. « là » est aussi utilisé pour insister sur la nuit dont on parle. </pre>

If you need a translation in English, call-me! ;)

So I hope I could help you !

Shamallow

July 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/lala2178

I need a translation.. lol

July 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Shamallow643

Translation in English:

Difference between "ceci" and "cela", and between "voici" and "voilà". The rule: "Ceci" and "voici" announce what will follow (it's after). "Cela" and "voilà" announce what the people said ( it's before).

Exemples : - "Je vais" te dire "ceci" : ...( futur ) - "Voilà", en quelques mots, ce qu'"il m'a dit".( past ).

The words "ce, cette, cet, ces" are demonstrative determinants which serve to show ( designate).Before a noun or an masculine adjective begin per an "h" or a vowel, we use "cet" and not "ce".

Exemples: ce cahier, cet hôpital cette leçon, ces maisons

Exemples: ce lapin cet hôpital (the noun is masculine and begin per an "h").

Exemples: cet arbitre ( the word is masculine and begins per a vowel ).

The words "si" and "là" allow insist.

Exemples: Nous achetons ce manteau-ci. The word « ci » used to insist regarding the word "manteau". Il a rit cette nuit–là. « là » used to insist regarding the word "nuit".

So I hope I could help you ! (And I hope my English was correct) ;)

Shamallow ;)

July 22, 2017
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