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Duolingo motivation, post-tree completion

I'm 30+ days past completing my French tree and I'm still highly motivated to learn the language as well as I can. The tree is still fully golden, but I'm not sure how much more useful Duolingo can be. My presumption is that anyone at Level 25 is (by normal standards) highly proficient/expert, and I also presume they do lots of study and interactions away from Duo.

I'm not too far off Level 20, which puts me at around 15,750 XP of a possible 30,000 XP. If I average 30 XP per day, it will take me 525 days to reach Level 25...

Putting this all together, do people get to level 25 by endless repetition of the same modules for literally years? Does this not make them simply good at Duolingo rather than true language experts? And if so, what's the point?

This isn't rhetorical; I'm genuinely interested.


July 28, 2017



Many users reached level 25 by using Immersion.

I consider Duolingo a good resource to start learning a language, but it is not possible to become an expert, or even fluent, by repeating the same sentences on Duolingo over and over again.

Edit: That so many people strive for the magic level 25 is a proof that Duolingo's gamification strategy works.


That's what I thought too. When you say "reaching level 25 by using Immersion", what do you mean? I understand the concept of immersion as surrounding yourself with all kinds of media and conversation opportunities in your target language but don't quite get the connection with Duo, except as part of a wider language-learning strategy. Could you explain a bit more, please? Thanks


Sorry, I was not clear. 'Immersion' was a feature of Duolingo that was removed a few months ago. It had been disabled for new users even earlier (1 year ago?). In Immersion users were working together with translations of texts. This activity generated XP.


Thanks. It is a shame they've removed that.


Has there been any talk of replacing Immersion with something for the post-tree learners, other than doing the opposite tree?


I suppose you could see the stories feature (being tested) as a replacement.


Another good resource after Duolingo is Clozemaster.com as a way to extend your vocabulary. Once you've reviewed the modules a lot here there isn't really anything left to do.


I'd suggest you to test yourself by creating a 2nd account and try testing out lesson by lesson then at some point reset the progress and make a general test, etc. By doing that you'll see your strong and weak points.


Extend your learning by working on the reverse tree.


I have finished the Turkish tree, and I continue my practice, but I have reached a point where it's not really very helpful for me. I have turned to other resources. I will never reach level 25 because it will be too repetitive. I expect that I will soon stop using it altogether. It's not boring yet, but when it becomes boring I will stop. We have to remember that Duolingo is for beginners and not a complete language course.


Are levels important? Does something special happen when you hit Level 25?

I am only halfway done with my Spanish tree and I'm already at level 20. I had no prior knowledge, and I'm treating this like a college course. That means I use a lot of additional outside resources and I do a lot of reviewing.

Someone with some familiarity could go through the lessons much faster and not collect so many points. That doesn't mean they're less knowledgeable than level 25 people.

As far as fluency is concerned, completing the tree alone won't make you an expert. Duolingo isn't designed for that. You'll have to continue with other resources.

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