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Issue with places - lesson 5

Hello,

When I started level 5 of the places course today, I was asked to translate 3 words in succession (park, garden, bar), but had yet to actually be taught these words by the course. I'm not sure if this is a bug, because when trying to recreate the issue I'm simply asked to select the correct translation, but there's no option to report it, so I thought it best to post this here.

1 year ago

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Why do you think that this is an issue? You were taught these words, by having them presented to you during an exercise.

Duolingo isn't a test. It's perfectly normal to not know the answer for every exercise.

1 year ago

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But none of the words had been presented to me at the time, which is the problem. Each of these words is introduced in lesson 5 and I hadn't seen them in any exercises previously. Rather than starting with example sentences or image/word pairs as in other exercises, this lesson opened with the English word and asked me to translate the word into Irish. I had no option but to guess the word and get it wrong, which seems counter-productive and isn't something I've seen happen before.

1 year ago

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So you're perfectly happy to get Irish sentences with words that you don't recognize, and learn those words by getting them wrong and then being presented with the translation, but it's a problem when you have to learn them when being presented with the translation after getting an English to Irish exercise wrong?

(I presume by "example sentences" you mean Irish to English exercises? I'm genuinely puzzled about whether you're seeing something that I didn't see when I started doing Duolingo).

1 year ago

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Sorry, I mean the Irish to English exercises. With those, I'm able to click on the individual words and see an example translation, but also they're usually voiced so I can hear them and they sometimes include examples of things like lenition and eclipsis, where appropriate. Personally I find those the most helpful. Most lessons I've carried out in other languages (and in Irish) so far have started with the word/image pairs, then moved onto example sentences and then to translations/transcriptions/more difficult exercises.

I should clarify that I'm not 100% certain that this is a bug or issue. It's just that previously any new words have been introduced either when paired with an image, or in an example sentence where they're highlighted in yellow. Usually these are accompanied by a recording so I can hear how they should sound, although I notice in Irish the image pairs currently don't have recordings. I've yet to see a word truly tested (through translation or transcription) in any other language, or in the Irish course itself, so I checked the help section and this was the only way given to report a potential issue.

1 year ago

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The "hint" feature where you can peek at the translation works for both Irish to English and English to Irish exercises. I'd forgotten that "new" words are highlighted, but if you're relying on the hint feature anyway, it works for both Irish to English and English to Irish exercises anyway.

The issues with audio on the Irish course are a different matter entirely, and, if the Irish to English version of an exercise has audio, you can hear that audio on the equivalent English to Irish exercise too, by clicking on the discussion button, albeit after you have submitted your answer.

1 year ago