https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Next European languages to be released?

Hi there! I'm wondering what could be the next European languages for Duolingo to release to learn English from? Now that all the current European languages on Duolingo have been released to learn English and for English speakers to learn (what I mean is all the European languages currently available on Duolingo), I wonder what will be the next phase in Duolingo's plan? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

July 31, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bob20020

Not in the incubator, probably Finnish or Icelandic.

July 31, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Yeah hopefully. Here's a list of all the available European languages not yet released on Duolingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/comments/6qo350/which_european_languages_will_be_next_in_the/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mr_Eyl

That list is missing a ton of languages like Faroese and Luxembourgish.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Yeah I noticed that too! It's also missing Albanian and Azerbaijani, and not only that; but Frisian and Papiamento too! I think it's just all the european languages that are available on that website though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vegjjany

True! I do would like to learn some Papiamento. It is spoken in the Caribbean, though (which is in America, instead of Europe). It is a Caribbean creole language, even being spoken in islands that are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nueby

For courses teaching English to European L1 speakers, the three most rational additions (based on non-English speaking population sizes) would all be Slavic, with Bulgarian at the top, followed by Slovak and BCMS (or one of its subsets, including Croatian alone).

The list at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population is missing a few L1s/countries, for example Albania, Bosnia, and Serbia. But Albania's entire population would not exceed the non-English speaking population of Slovakia.

The reason to consider population sizes would be to maximize the number of users added. So would the % of English non-speakers. Between Slovakia and Finland (both at 5.4 million total), it just makes sense to go with the former's 74% over the latter's 30%.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Thanks nueby! That's a good and useful perspective! For anyone interested, this is what BCMS is for: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/bosnian-croatian-montenegrin-serbian-bcs-name-of-language-in-thread-titles.1211138/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Albanian is also the native language of 95% of the almost 2 million people in Kosovo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nueby

Good point. By gross population figures Albanian comes close to Slovakia/Finland. I haven't had much luck with locating the English speaker % for them. The 26% in Slovakia seems pretty tough to "beat".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Maughanster_

The most requested European languages are probably Finnish, Icelandic, Latin, Scottish Gaelic, and Serbian/Croatian.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LavethWolf

Finnish, Icelandic and Latin are probably the most anticipated. Personally, I would like to see a Faroese or Karelian course on Doulingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Yes definitely! Where is Karelian spoken by?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LavethWolf

Karelian is mostly spoken in parts of Russia, along with a small amount of speakers in Finland :

You can read more about Karelian here :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelian_language


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/belstar128

Czech should come out in this decade


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OliverBens1

Ah sorry I meant ones that aren't in the incubator yet.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chilotin

Serbocroatian < Galician < Finnish < Bulgarian < Icelandic < Latin < Scottish Gaelic < Albanian < Slovak < Basque < Slovene < Lithuanian < Latvian < Estonian < Asturleonese < Belarussian.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Linda454342

How about some European languages that are actually spoken in Europe? Like European Portuguese (Not Brazilian!) and British English? I want to learn European Portuguese, and I am British. The Brazilian Portuguese Duolingo course is of limited use to me, and I am often forced to give an "English" translation that is completely ungrammatical in British English! For example, there is no word "gotten" in British English; "Fall" is not a season (the season is Autumn, much closer to the Portuguese word). You look out of the window, not out the window; you jump off the table, not off of the table; I can write you a letter, I can write a letter, but I can't write you (not unless it means I write down the word YOU). I can only write to you! There are hundreds of other examples of this sort of nonsense on Duolingo. Bad enough that I can't learn Portuguese as it is spoken in Portugal, but why should I also have to learn American English? And as for the differences between Portuguese as spoken in Portugal vs Brazil, I was amused to find that "Cachorro" in Portugal means a sausage (a hot dog!).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Windrammer

Latin is long overdue.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Depending on how precisely you define "European," Georgian might qualify. I think it would be next in line in terms of non-English-speaking native-speaker population total after Bulgarian, BCMS, Slovak, and Albanian. Certainly many Georgians speak Russian, but Russian competence undoubtedly isn't what it used to be.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

If you're going purely on what languages have the greatest number of speakers (I used this list: https://jakubmarian.com/european-languages-by-number-of-native-speakers/), Bulgarian would be next on the list (it's actually above some of the languages we already have available). However, Serbian is just slightly combined, and if Duo were able to provide a combined course of Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Macedonian, as some have suggested, that would be the next most logical choice.

That said, it's all dependent on who volunteers to build a new program. Given how many "big" languages aren't covered (Chinese, Hindi, Indonesian/ Malay, Bengali, Hausa, Persian, etc.), I can't see DL putting internal resources to adding more European languages. So which Euro language comes next will be a question of who volunteers.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scarcerer

As long as we are talking about major European languages and not Elfdalian or another language with a couple of thousand speakers, it's more dependant on the staff to approve the volunteers than on people volunteering. This is a small sample from 2015.

Also, I wouldn't say Hindi and Indonesian aren't covered, they are in the incubator after all.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Irusejka

Macedonian is different from Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

Sorry, I misspoke. I meant Montenegrin.

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