Next European languages to be released?
Hi there! I'm wondering what could be the next European languages for Duolingo to release to learn English from? Now that all the current European languages on Duolingo have been released to learn English and for English speakers to learn (what I mean is all the European languages currently available on Duolingo), I wonder what will be the next phase in Duolingo's plan? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
Yeah hopefully. Here's a list of all the available European languages not yet released on Duolingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/comments/6qo350/which_european_languages_will_be_next_in_the/
For courses teaching English to European L1 speakers, the three most rational additions (based on non-English speaking population sizes) would all be Slavic, with Bulgarian at the top, followed by Slovak and BCMS (or one of its subsets, including Croatian alone).
The list at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population is missing a few L1s/countries, for example Albania, Bosnia, and Serbia. But Albania's entire population would not exceed the non-English speaking population of Slovakia.
The reason to consider population sizes would be to maximize the number of users added. So would the % of English non-speakers. Between Slovakia and Finland (both at 5.4 million total), it just makes sense to go with the former's 74% over the latter's 30%.
Thanks nueby! That's a good and useful perspective! For anyone interested, this is what BCMS is for: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/bosnian-croatian-montenegrin-serbian-bcs-name-of-language-in-thread-titles.1211138/
How about some European languages that are actually spoken in Europe? Like European Portuguese (Not Brazilian!) and British English? I want to learn European Portuguese, and I am British. The Brazilian Portuguese Duolingo course is of limited use to me, and I am often forced to give an "English" translation that is completely ungrammatical in British English! For example, there is no word "gotten" in British English; "Fall" is not a season (the season is Autumn, much closer to the Portuguese word). You look out of the window, not out the window; you jump off the table, not off of the table; I can write you a letter, I can write a letter, but I can't write you (not unless it means I write down the word YOU). I can only write to you! There are hundreds of other examples of this sort of nonsense on Duolingo. Bad enough that I can't learn Portuguese as it is spoken in Portugal, but why should I also have to learn American English? And as for the differences between Portuguese as spoken in Portugal vs Brazil, I was amused to find that "Cachorro" in Portugal means a sausage (a hot dog!).
Depending on how precisely you define "European," Georgian might qualify. I think it would be next in line in terms of non-English-speaking native-speaker population total after Bulgarian, BCMS, Slovak, and Albanian. Certainly many Georgians speak Russian, but Russian competence undoubtedly isn't what it used to be.
If you're going purely on what languages have the greatest number of speakers (I used this list: https://jakubmarian.com/european-languages-by-number-of-native-speakers/), Bulgarian would be next on the list (it's actually above some of the languages we already have available). However, Serbian is just slightly combined, and if Duo were able to provide a combined course of Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Macedonian, as some have suggested, that would be the next most logical choice.
That said, it's all dependent on who volunteers to build a new program. Given how many "big" languages aren't covered (Chinese, Hindi, Indonesian/ Malay, Bengali, Hausa, Persian, etc.), I can't see DL putting internal resources to adding more European languages. So which Euro language comes next will be a question of who volunteers.
As long as we are talking about major European languages and not Elfdalian or another language with a couple of thousand speakers, it's more dependant on the staff to approve the volunteers than on people volunteering. This is a small sample from 2015.
Also, I wouldn't say Hindi and Indonesian aren't covered, they are in the incubator after all.