https://www.duolingo.com/Mina42192

Hello, in the sentence Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à ...

Hello!

In this sentence

Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à...

I get that it means rough I remember speaking to, but I have a couple questions.

1) Is it avoir parlé here because the verb me souviens was already used and so avoir needs to be in the infinitive? But it still remains past tense by using avoir?

2) I really don't understand the use of d'en in the sentence. Why is it not just: Je me souviens avoir parlé à??? I remember talking to?? Does the d'en mean 'it'? So I remember talking to 'whoever' about it?

Thank you very much!!

August 1, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/Fayke

Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à... = I remember that I talked [or "have talked"] about it to... [or "at" depending on what follows. It could be "à la réunion"="at the meeting" or "à Simon"="to Simon"]

Just remember that you generally use "se souvenir de quelque chose/quelqu'un" to mean "to remember someone/something", "se souvenir de" + infinitive verb = "to remember doing something". You can also say: "Je me souviens que j'ai mangé une pomme" = "I remember that I ate an apple".
In your case it would be: Je me souviens que j'en ai parlé à...
Je me souviens, j'en ai parlé à... would be correct too.
As well as: Je me souviens lui en avoir parlé. if it's "to Simon/Catherine[="lui" even if it is a woman]" for example.

"en" refers to what you talked about. So "it" indeed.

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Mina42192

thank you Fayke!

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams

I'll explain it to you dear :

In this sentence : Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à...

If you're confused about D'en read these sentences please :

  • Je me souviens d'avoir un cat, I remember to have a cat.(present tense)
  • Je me soueiens de manger une pomme, I remember to eat an apple.(present tense)

I think you got it now :) That is true that "avoir" or "manger" are infinitive and you think we should not add "to"(In English) "De"(means "To" in French) but for some verbs we have to add it to emphasize the meaning and the grammar but for some verb we do not add "de" to them, like : J'aime manger la viande, I like to eat the meat.

If your confused about "avoir parle" read this please :

"avoir parle" means to have spoken or to have talked, here we use it because the speaker rembers that he/she talked about something in the past and in this moment he/she remembers it. It is infinitive, as I told you in above sentences "de" makes it infinitive.

As you will learn the compound past tenses you'll understand which French verbs become past by using "avoir" and "etre".

If you're confused about "en" read this please :

As you know when we say an English sentence and we want to avoid saying the object directly we use "it", for example :

Dan, do you like my cat? Yes, I like it.

In French for some verbs they use "en" instead of "it" like "J'en ai parle." means "I've talked about it"

En comes before the infinitive maker "De" and it has its first letter vowel so it becomes " d'en".

You must use "d'en" in this sentence, because the grammar becomes false.

If you're still confused about something feel free and ask me right away :)

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Mina42192

Thank you so much Sofia!! That is so so much clearer now! Such a wonderful answer

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams

You're welcome honey, and thanks for lingots.

I forgot to tell one point, this sentence means : I remember to have talked to him/her about...

I'll write to you the meaning of each word by highlighting them, to understand much better :

Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à...

I remember to have talked to him/her about...

  • Here "en" means to somebody, because it is the indirect object.

Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à...

I remember to have talked to him/her about...

Je me souviens d'en avoir parlé à...

I remember to have talked to him/her about...

Some verbs such ( souvenir, lever and ...) need se, me, te before them but in English they do not have any meaning.

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Mina42192

One question though,

does 'de' always follow je me souviens ??

So: Je me souviens d'avoir parlé - I remember talking Je me souviens d'avoir achèté - I remember buying

Thank you again!

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams

Yes, as I told you after some verbs we need infinitives and after some verbs we don't. Always there is "de" after souvenir ( this verbs means to remember) even for objects like :

Je me souviens de lui. That means "I remembered him" and it has "De".

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Multi0Lingual4

Would it be too much to ask for a list of verbs needing de, or help to get pointed to in the right direction? Merci.

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Multi0Lingual4

Très utile. Merci beaucoup!

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Fayke

It's "J'en ai parlé".

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams

I sometimes have errors in my writing that's because I write so fast.

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Mina42192

its fine!! your answers have been wonderful

August 1, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams

Thanks sweetie :)

August 1, 2017
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