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-i vs -as in verbs

I still don't understand when to use -i vs -as, can someone explain it? I keep failing questions because I can never tell.

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick.-
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the ending i, is when you want to say: to+verb, for example:
- Mi mangxas panon= I EAT bread. - MI sxatas mangxi panon= I like TO EAT bread.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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This is a good first approximation, but the rule breaks down when you try to say things like:

  • "I prefer singing to dancing"
  • "Stop singing"
  • "He must sing"
1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Can you give some examples of sentences you're having trouble with?

The trouble (assuming you're a native English speaker) is that English verbs don't change much - so it's hard to use English as an analogy.

Basically, -as, -is-, -os, -us, and -u are used for the main verb in a clause. The infinitive (-i) is used for a secondary verb. It's also the form you'll find when you look in a dictionary.

  • Mi kantas - I sing.
  • Mi volas kanti - I want to sing (want is the main verb)
  • Kanti estas amuze - Singing is fun - (estas is the main verb.)
  • Mi venis por kanti - I came to sing (venis is the main verb)
  • Ĉesu kanti - stop singing (Ĉesu is the main verb.)
1 year ago

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How do you tell which is the main verb and which is the secondary verb?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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What is your native language? My sense is that this should be somewhat obvious. It's what's left (beside the subject) when you strip the sentence down to almost nothing.

  • I want to sing - I want.
  • Singing is fun - Singing is.
  • I came to sing - I came
  • Stop singing - Stop.

In English, the "main verb" is the part that usually changes when you go from present tense to past tense.

  • I want to sing - I wanted to sing.
  • Singing is fun - Singing was fun.
  • I come to sing - I came to sing.

Can you provide any examples which are not obvious or clear?

1 year ago

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My native language is English. I don't have any examples because most of the questions I was having trouble with were on the app, and I don't have access to it right now, but the part about tenses makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BelgianStr
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-i is the infinitive form of the verb

-as is the present tense form of the verb.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Very true, but the question was (essentially) "how do you know when to use the present tense and how do you know when to use an infinitive. At least, that's how I understood the question.

1 year ago

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Could a beginner but in? IF it's anything like Spanish, if there two verbs together, the second one is always in the infinitive (or "to" form)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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That is a good rule of thumb.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BelgianStr
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What's your point?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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I was trying to encourage you to see that sometimes a literal answer to a question doesn't really answer the question. Not a big deal either way.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BelgianStr
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Thanks for the encouragement. You are special.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Thanks for the snarky answer. Here's mine:

I still don't understand when to use -i vs -as, can someone explain it?

Sure, you use -i when you need the verb to end with an i and -as when you need it to en with -as.

/snarkoff

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BelgianStr
BelgianStr
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Stop posturing for me, sal. It is disgusting.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
salivanto
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Why do you keep writing to me?

1 year ago