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Demonstratives

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Thank you for the detailed grammar explanations in the Polish course! They are immensely helpful.

I have a concern about the explanation of demonstratives, however. In some languages, demonstrative adjectives (I like this apple) have different forms than demonstrative pronouns (What is this?). This is not the case in English, and seems not to be true of Polish either, but I noticed that the explanation calls ten a pronoun, and then only provides examples of its use as an adjective. Could you clarify this?

1 year ago

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To my knowledge, ten can mean either "this" or "that." Perhaps if you progress further in the course you will start seeing more examples of ten being used as a pronoun as well as an adjective.

1 year ago

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What do you mean? The words "ten/ta/to" are pronouns and, as far as i know (I am Polish), they cannot be used in function of adjectives, so what sentences do you mean that they are used that way?

And an extensive explanation why "ten" can be translated either as "this" or "that" is here https://www.duolingo.com/comment/14767501

11 months ago

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In English "this" and "that" are adjectives when placed before the nouns so yes, from the point of view of English "ten/ta/to" are usually adjectives. In the Polish grammar we always call them pronouns though.

11 months ago

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In Polish grammar a word that replaces another part of speech is always called a pronoun (zaimek). We distinguish several types of pronouns and one of them are adjectival pronouns.

When we say: "Lubię to jabłko" (I like this apple), the pronoun has indeed adjective's function.

In the sentence: "To lubię, tamtego nie" (This one I like, that one I don't), noun is replaced.

From the above, you can easily deduct that both types of demonstratives have the same forms: TEN (masculine singular), TA (feminine singular), TO (neuter singular), CI (masculine personal plural), TE (others in plural) regardless if they're replacing nouns or adjectives. All of them follow declension as if they were respectively nouns of adjectives. Other types of Polish pronouns include adverbial (tak, tu, wtedy, gdzie, skąd etc.) and numeral (ile, tyle etc.).

1 year ago

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Thanks for the clarification! It might be worth mentioning this in the Demonstratives notes.

1 year ago