https://www.duolingo.com/Monahan.H

Japanese Tree

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Just a question for people who have completed the Japanese tree: How far will it get you? By this I mean how proficient will you be once you complete it? I have started it and I really like it so far. :)

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Kimiko_Sensei

This course is great for Survival Japanese, in that, it is useful to use for traveling. I believe they made this course in time for people who wish to travel to Japan during the Olympic Games in 2020.

With that being said, in my opinion, it is not enough to pass the JLPT (Japanese Language Proficiency Test) N5 level as Haelvateinn had suggested below, because the vocabulary list and grammar list is no where close to addressing all points to pass that level of Japanese.

However, this is a great way to introduce Japanese to someone in order to get a feel of the language before taking other supplementary courses or undertaking other methods of study.

It is also noted that this course is still in its infancy and perhaps down the road, improvements can be made to focus on the grammar, and vocabulary needed for each JLPT level.

I hope this has helped you.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Faisane
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From the May 18, 2017 Forbes article, right when the Japanese course launched: "In fact, the course includes all of the vocabulary and grammar needed to pass the JLPT N5, a proficiency test that I personally took two years of Japanese classes in order to pass."

I'm not very interested in doing the N5, so I have not compared vocabulary lists. But I have done the Duolingo course in its entirety, and my impression is that it covered pretty much everything (plus a bit more) that the first textbook in my real-life Japanese course did - and that took us more than a year to get through.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Monahan.H
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Cool! :D

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Faisane
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I think the "recall vs recognition" issue is real, though, and may make you think you know more than you actually do.

You will get a lot more out of this course if you go beyond the "let's assemble a sentence from pre-fab pieces" part and make your own cards.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rhabarberbarbara
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While I completely agree with you, I think it might be good to mention that for N5 you only need recognition, as it is a multiple choice test. I recently took the test and I thought the duolingo tree helped me practice (though it was not my only source of practice).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Faisane
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Yes, my comment wasn't meant to address N5 prep, more a word of caution in general. (Interestingly, the recent NYT article by a Duolingo user is very positive but it also mentions how a native Dutch speaker didn't even understand the author's attempt to say "how are you" in Dutch, and the author's complete inability to understand a film in the foreign language she had spent so much Duolingo time on.)

All of which is to say: your tree may be golden but there's still a LOT of work ahead.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rhabarberbarbara
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Since I cannot answer to your next comment, let me do it here. It is certainly good to be cautious and not rely to much on duolingo. It is nice to practice vocabulary and some grammar but I am really glad I have a teacher in real life to ask questions and talk to in Japanese.

And to your other point... I have tried books in the languages I am learning but I haven't tried movies yet. Much more learning and practicing up ahead^^

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/testmoogle
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I think you guys might be interested in this website at some point:

https://supernative.tv/ja/

It shows you a very short video clip of Japanese dramas, anime and movies, then afterwards you have to answer a question about what you heard. It's a very awesome site for practising and improving your ability to recognise Japanese spoken on TV. ^^

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Faisane
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Well, the nice thing about movies is that you can see that you're actually progressing (even if it doesn't feel like it). For example, I watch Kore-Eda's "Like Father, Like Son" periodically (such a nice film!), and every time there is something new that I understand. The first time I actually heard Keita say はい、とても じょうずです(answering the question whether his dad is good at flying kites) I felt like YESSSS - VICTORY!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Monahan.H
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Thanks!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnsonTess

One thing about it, is that it doesn't include kanji. Most of the questions are in hiragana. It's hard for me to learn kanji here, but it really does help me with verbal communication!

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Horako224

N5, with extra resources.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ghie007

I wish doulingo could make more higher levels that can be used for JLPT test

6 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RWang2017
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The Japanese tree is very short compared with German, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian and Korean trees in DL. There is no 漢字-Kanji in the tree either. Someone needs to study more with other resources in order to pass the Japanese Language Proficiency Test - JLPT test.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Blaze2107

what is the best way to learn japanese for free

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MihaelaMih988590

Minna no nihongo book can help Plus https://jisho.org/ has a list of all Jōyō kanji by grade study on and kun yomi . There is a dot that devised the kanji from the hirigana so it is one of the best online dictionaries. https://jlptsensei.com/jlpt-n5-study-guide/grammar-list/ here is a grammar list, and some more grammar http://japanesetest4you.com/jlpt-n5-grammar-list/. Get a notebook and start from writing hirigana and katakana and basic words, than grade 1 kanji (80). Learn 10 kanji a day with all the readings and meanings. That is how i learn.

7 months ago
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