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Merit or Popularity Contest?

Merit or Popularity Contest?

I find it amazing that the founders of Duolingo and the administrators make so many blunders. These are apparent to anyone who has been involved in education for any length of time. At this moment, I will not address the “health” concept and why it is a ludicrous limitation. However, I will address the Back to School Contest 2017.

Any educator would fully anticipate that the alleged “contest” would be based on the merit of the essay. However, voting cannot occur unless someone has a Facebook account! Do you realize that many, many people do not and will not open such an account because of privacy concerns? And, frankly, that is a valid argument. So we are left with something absolutely ludicrous . . .

  1. Anyone voting MUST have a Facebook account, and
  2. Voting is nothing more than coercing people to vote, thus the results are based on advertisement and popularity rather than merit.

ABSURD!

August 9, 2017

14 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mr_Eyl

"At this moment, I will not address the “health” concept and why it is a ludicrous limitation."

I'll address it for you.

Use the web version where there is no health and more content for each course. Problem solved!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PaulKlenk

I am well aware and have written many, many times about the "work around" in the forums. Thanks for your input.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

I assume it is based on the ability of educators to help advertise Duolingo (to the widest audience, aka the most votes). Getting an educator to share it with their network increases probability that other educators are being introduced to Duolingo by this sort of word of mouth networking. Asking an educator to write an essay is likely to produce a sound piece about how much they like Duolingo.

Why is that absurd? Duolingo is exchanging educational resources for market reach, in order to keep the company alive and reaching the audience they feel it will benefit. It is intelligent, creative problem solving.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wombatua

Perhaps "absurd" isn't the right term, but requiring a Facebook account is, to someone like me who doesn't have one and has no intentions of ever having one, disenfranchising. We don't care to be considered second-class because we won't sell our souls to Facebook.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Qiunnn

I think not being able to vote on a Duolingo contest is so far being considered second class, maybe not being able to vote in politics because you dont have a facebook account but this is a contest on a website.
although i do think it would be nice to have a different option.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wombatua

It's the underlying assumption that "of course, everyone has a Facebook account" that's troublesome. It's the same issue that crops up with many newspapers, which restrict comments to people with Facebook accounts. That disenfranchises plenty of people who might have valid ideas but have no way to add to the discussion. It's the same idea here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Qiunnn

I think it is bad for them to assume everyone has a facebook account and restrict commenting to them, my issue was with the 'considered second class' because while it's a bit of bad move it is not exactly bad enough to warrant that, considering other countries actually do treat certain people as sub human and this is no way compares. although like i said i do agree it isn't the best way to go about things and could be changed for the better


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PaulKlenk

Think you might be expanding his meaning regarding "second class citizen." We'll ask him, but I'll wager his intent was one developed in the face (no pun intended) of an unreasonable requirement. You might construe it as a requirement or a restriction. In either case, it is truly unreasonable.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Qiunnn

What does 'expanding his meaning' mean ? sorry


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN
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Qiunnn, this is to try to answer your question "What does 'expanding his meaning' mean?" I believe it means you are putting meaning into his words which aren't there.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Qiunnn

Oh, I do not understand how I did that. He said that he was considered second class because he did not have a facebook account ' We don't care to be considered second-class', I said that not being able to comment on a newspaper or vote in a competion is far from being considered second class


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN
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Quinnn, I totally get it, that one should not throw around the term of being considered "second class" so lightly.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PaulKlenk

wombatau . . .agree fully. I was a public figure in public schools. There is no reason for students to know my business. Facebook is unnecessary and should not be a requirement.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN
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Sei nicht so ernst mit kleinen Dingen. Nicht alles, was angeboten wird, ist für alle.

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