Conjugation Tables?

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    Alright, I've been running through the French course for some time now and I've gotta know, what's the deal with the lack of conjugation tables? I took French in highschool for a number of years; we started with "er" verbs (Manger, Parler, Jouer, Travailler, etc.), moved on to "ir" (Finir, Choisir, etc.) and hit "re" verbs (Vendre, Perdre, etc.) before moving on to irregulars (Lire, Ecrire, Dire, Boir, Voir, etc.).

    I know that doesn't mean that Duo is required to follow the same process, but every step of the way we were filling out tables for the Je, Tu, Il/Elle, Nous, Vous and Ils/Elles forms for all of these. And when we made it to past tense, we did the same thing as necessary. In the long run, it made remembering these forms all the easier.

    Now I understand Duo is based more around repeating the tree after you finish it, meaning filling out tables would be long and boring, but I'm finding it difficult to remember how to conjugate some forms of some verbs. A number of them only show up in the lesson lists already conjugated ("Present 2" for example) so it's a little difficult to derive the original form in order to look up the conjugation. I remember it easily enough for Duo's lessons, after it shows up once (and, therefore, the hover reminds me), but prior to that I can not remember for the life of me. I recall being able to hover over the verb in earlier lessons and it listing the conjugations but either that has changed or I am mistaken.

    Besides that, we get a full table for Être / Avoir. Present 2 gives us Parler, Finir and Dormir in tables, but the lessons include the likes of Devoir, Connaître and Comprendre. Present 3 adds Ouvrir and Vendre to the table of the earlier three, but has a whole slew of of new verbs and a number of irregulars; Courir, Contienir, Savoir.

    I just don't see how one could retain these verbs and their conjugations when there are limited examples (subjects) per lesson (displayed as already conjugated no less), strengthening achieves essentially the same thing (small number of verbs, small numbers of subjects, many questions using those to help you remember) and for the most part there is no mention if a verb is regular or not. But the irregulars that follow patterns of the "er", "ir" and "re" verbs do get lumped in with them (Lire for example). Which I'm expecting to be problematic when it comes to passe compose...

    Could anyone at least recommend a good resource for checking conjugations? Practice would be nice as well, if possible. http://www.listeningpractice.org/conjugator.php?lang=fra seemed good but it likes to repeat the same subjects and verbs even with random selected instead of "show more common verbs more frequently" so I tend to miss out on nous/vous forms and some verbs altogether.

    August 10, 2017

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    https://www.duolingo.com/Speir_

    There is a way to do this, actually.

    As an example (in the screenshot I've provided), I clicked on the French word "lis". Scrolling down (under the tab labeled "Indicative"), there was a conjugation table for the verb.

    Because not all courses have a words section included, this won't be accessible for specific trees.

    Happy learning!

    August 10, 2017

    [deactivated user]

      Thank you both

      August 11, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Fauzan836172

      Hi there. You are absolutely right - Duo should bring the conjugation tables. When I joined and started French here, you could see the conjugation for each word by hovering over the word in the lessons and clicking a button. A pop-up would enlist all the forms of that word (or at least for the moods you have learnt). Some time before all this "web-rewrite" started, I noticed they had disappeared. I thought they disappeared after moving to a higher level, so I shrugged it off. But I miss it, especially as we move on to complex moods and tenses. It's easier to learn that way. It's great that you took up the effort to make a detailed post about this. It's not like we can go every time to the words list just to get a quick look. Here is one resource that I know of: french.kwiziq.com . Somewhere on that website are entire tables of conjugations. Hope Duo brings back the conjugations :)

      August 12, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/uroshu

      I found the following site extremely useful since it's the only one that offers pronunciation of over 35000 English, French, German, Italian and Spanish verb conjugation tables. Just type in a verb you would like to see conjugated and hear how each and every form of the verb of your choice is pronounced: http://conjugation.io/

      May 25, 2018
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