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''Bu kız okulumuzun en iyisi'' cümlesini ''This girl is the best of our school.'' şeklinde çevirdim fakat videoda öğretmen ''That girl is our school's best'' şeklinde çevirdi. Her ikisinin de doğru olduğunu düşünüyorum, doğru mudur? ''Şu cümle daha doğru'' diyebileceğimiz bir durum var mı?

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The girl is the best in our school.

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Doğrusu bu cümledir, tebrik ederim. İngilizcede mantık olarak okul o kıza sahip olamaz, çünkü cansız bir nesne. Buna benzer başka bir örnek de verilebilir hatta:

  • The best country in the world = Dünyanın en iyi ülkesi (Dünyadaki en iyi ülke)

Türkçede -nın iyelik eki kullanırız ama İngilizcede in diye kullanılıyor yine aynı mantıktan dolayı. Yani doğrusu ne "of"lu hali ne de "'s"li hali.

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Apparently there exist a lot of questions and opinions on this topic:
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/possessives

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There are sure more ways of using this case, just like in this sentence. What I was saying is that the proper preposition for the phrases including "the world, the school, the class" etc. is an "in", not an "of" or an apostrophe. In all of the grammar books I have read so far this is so and also there were even caution notes regarding this.

It's incorrect to make sentences like "the most successful student of the class". It should be an "in", not an "of".

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I did not want to challenge that "in" is a correct preposition here, I personally would prefer "in" as well. But for me the reason would not be any type of possession. What to all these words "the world, the school, the class" have in common? They are real or nominal places. So the according preposition describes the relation to a location.
http://www.writeawriting.com/grammar/prepositions-types-examples/
(Much to my dismay this page seems to have a typo under prepositions of possession. I assume from the example given that it should be on, not in. And apart from that, does on really need to be listed under possession? It could be location as well, "He does not have money on him, but where does he have his money then?")

I've found some examples on this page that would be hard to explain with the inanimate object theory:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/determiners/possession-john-s-car-a-friend-of-mine

And a short read about the origins of English prepositions :)
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/prepositions

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From my understanding what you typed here, I can say yes, there's a typo and it should be "on", not "in". And I think one's pocket/wallet (or hand, maybe) is not a location but a possession sign. Thus it's very proper to be listed under possession.

I actually still didn't understand what your question is exactly. I am so sorry.

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evet cansi dogrudur cunki ingilzce bir cok cumlenin anlamlari ayidir farkli yazilir ama aynidir :)

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