"Give it to our father."

Translation:Gib es unserem Vater.

August 17, 2017

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Why not "Gib unserem Vater es"?

I thought that dative came before accusative.


Generally pronouns come before nouns. The mnemonic is DAN PAD PIN.

DAN: Dative then Accusative with two Nouns.

PAD: With two Pronouns, Accusative then Dative.

PIN: Pronouns In front of Nouns..


Er gibt dem Mann den Hut.

Er gibt ihn ihm.

Er gibt ihm den Hut.

Er gibt ihn dem Mann.


I am still a little confused. Here's what I gathered:

  • Wenn sowohl Dativ als auch Akusativ Nomen sind, dann Dativ vor akusativ. According to which : "Mario gibt dem Mädchen einen Bleistift" ist richtig aber "Mario gibt einen Bleistift dem Mädchen" ist falsch. Warum ist das?

  • Wenn da zwei pronomen sind, dann Akusativ vor Dativ. "Sally zeigt ihn ihm" Warum ist "Sally zeigt ihm ihn" falsch?

  • Ich kann nicht die letzte Regal verstehen. Pronomen ist immer vor die Nomen. Warum ist das eine Regal? Warum ist " Er gibt dem Mann ihn " nicht richtig?

I understand that some rules are fundamental to a language and cannot be explained. They are just the way they are. However, I would like to know why certain sentences are wrong. German is richer than the English language, and hence it is a bit harder to learn for English speakers.

Ich habe meine Frage im Deutsch geschreiben, damit ich deutsch lernen kann. Korrigiere mich, wenn ich falsch bin. Vielen Dank


One Duolingo sentence is "Wir zeigen die Zeitung dem Senior". Why is it accusative-dative, if the rule for two nouns is dative-accusative? Or are both ways acceptable?


I'm guessing that dative-accusative order does not apply here because there is a pronoun instead of nouns for both cases.


Why is the "to" word not used in this sentence?


Since "unserem" has the dativ case ending, we already know the father is receiving the item, without needing a preposition.


Can't it also be phrased as "Gib unseren Vater es."?


Why isn't zu included?


How is Übergib different from Gibt and why is it conjugated with no t?


"Geben": to give

"Übergeben": to hand over

ich übergebe, du übergibst, er/sie/es übergibt, wir übergeben, ihr übergebt, sie übergeben

ich übergab, du übergabst, er/sie/es übergab, wir übergaben, ihr übergabt, sie übergaben


    Sure, but those are just the regular conjugations for Präsens and Präteritum. The conjugation we have here is Imperativ (giving a command). There are three forms of the imperative mood, and any of them should be accepted here:

    (Über)gib es unserem Vater - speaking to one person casually
    (Über)gebt es unserem Vater - speaking to more than one person casually
    (Über)geben Sie es unserem Vater - speaking to any number of people formally

    Duolingo also has a lesson tips page on this topic.


    I don't know anything about übergib, but gib has no t because it is imperative. Also notice that the verb is in the first position, another clue that this is an imperative sentence.


    This is not a problem only in this particular sentence but in many sentences that involve the English word "it" as an object: translations with "ihn" and "sie" have to be admitted since there is no equivalence between the English 'it' and the German "es". "It" refers to any thing or animal, whereas "es" refers only to things and animals of neuter gender. Things and animals of masculine gender are referred in German as "ihn" (in the accusative case) and those of feminine gender as "sie", and both words translate as "it" in English when they refer to things or animals, not necessarily "him" or "her".


    Why not "Gib es zu unserem Vater." ?


    Why is it "unserem" and not "unser"?


    Very late reply, but in case someone else is wondering: the person receiving the object needs to be in the dative case. Since "Vater" is masculine, "unser" becomes "unserem". (It'd be "unserer Mutter".)


    I always thought that dative came vefore accusative. (Actually I kinda relied on the word order to figure out whether a noun would be dative or accusative.) Now, I think word order isn't that strict and dative means "to ...." whereas accusative is a simple pronoun. So as long as the noun is dative, the word order doesn't matter. But then I stumbled across a post made earlier in this thread by @Deinonysus about that DAN PAD PIN acronym. Now I am confused again cuz that suggests that the word order does matter but it's different for diferent situations. I am trying to understand this as "Give Sally the pen" and "Give the pen to Sally" essentially mean the same thing regardless of whether Sally is mentioned first or the pen. But the DAN PAD PIN is a little confusing. Can someone please throw more light on that?


    Why can't I use Schenken? Schenk es unserem Vater


    Schenken ist "to gift", no merely "to give".
    The sentence could be about the salt shaker, or the father's own newspaper ☺

    sfuspvwf npj


    Hi, I thought that if the base/stem of the verb changes when one forms "du, er, sie or es the imperative uses the unchanged stem? So why is it "gib" and not "geb?" Thanks to anyone who can explain this to me.


    Why is "Gib es zu unserem Vater" unacceptable?


    Why is "Gib es zu unserem Vater" not acceptable? I am no expert but I think there are two reasons. 1) Zu= to in terms of motion towards rather than the dative "to" when a gift is given to someone. 2) the dative case "unserem"= to our, and thus the zu is superfluous.


    I put exactly what it is but upperletter!!! Am i wrong?


    why "give our father it" is wrong?

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