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Am I very slow? Am I wasting my time?

Sometimes it takes me an hour to complete one strengthen exercise. When I am not sure why I got something wrong, or even why I got it right, or maybe wonder if an alternative would also be correct I go to the discussion to see what others have said.

Then I go searching the internet to try to confirm the conclusion I have reached, and sometimes my conclusion is confirmed and sometimes not.

I may even then see that someone has put a query that I agree with or a comment I disagree with, and search the internet about this too.

After all this I may still have a question and look for a suitable place to post this within the discussion. Usually, as I am writing my post, I suddenly see my own mistake/misunderstanding and end up deleting my post before even posting it!

Imagine doing this for several questions! And at the end of the process I am not even sure if I will remember what I found out as sentences and words come up randomly and I may not get that sentence again when I go back to strengthen that skill.

Does anyone think I would be better just to accept the answers given by DL and not do all this research and reading of discussions? Or maybe someone thinks this is an effective way of learning? Am I wasting time?

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/RRVCAB
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I don't think it's a waste of time at all...you have an inquistive mind. This is the way we learn all things. Formulating questions and perusing the answers on your own is a wonderful way to keep your mind active and interested in whatever you are learning. Keep going. Be patient and enjoy the journey !

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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I certainly do this on occasion (including the writing/deleting posts part!)—it is sometimes the only way to ascertain how something works. However, it is quite time consuming, and I am mindful that I do not have an unlimited lifespan.
I suggest that you don't investigate every little thing ab initio; very often things 'click' after one has internalised a good number of different sentences though regular practice. Even if the details still remain hazy, using Duolingo 'blind' for a good few spaced repetitions certainly decreases the time needed to clarify a point through research elsewhere (I am finding this very much the case in respect of Japanese). The beauty of the DL system is that it comprises sentences, and all sentences have an internal logic that the brain is naturally inclined to grasp after enough exposure.

I also suggest using timed practice. After all, you will never have time to look anything up if you're actually having a conversation with someone.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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One of the benefits of Duo is that everyone works at their own pace. So, don't worry about it. If you want to move faster you might try keeping notes of the tricky stuff. But it's not necessary.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aditi968101

YOU R not wasting time time at all when i feel little 'angry' i go to https://www.memrise.com/ it is a fun website which makes me 'calmer'

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Akvamariin
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I've begun to think Memrise is good for one's blood pressure.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cluney2

It is an interesting question. One I have questioned with German. I know not much about French however I do believe we were made with an inquisitive mind. It is not to us to decide what we understand and don't. But it is up to us what we decide to focus and what we don't. In my experience the Grammar of a language is the most important. Words Pronunciations of names are secondary. This is my opinion

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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Keep doing exactly what you are doing. Allow your curiosity to propel you forward.

As a supplement to my duolingo learning I use anki (a flashcard program). I make a new flashcard for any rule or sentence I had trouble remembering while using duo, so that way I reinforce my learning of that rule (or sentence).

You're doing great!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ruferales

It's good to question things, but maybe Duolingo is no longer good enough for you. Perhaps you should try a more direct approach now, like finding a language exchange partner. Applying what you have learned so far into an actual conversation will greatly improve your skills.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Linda7Italian

I accept DL's answers until I have learnt more then occasionally double check if really confused. More often than not, DL is right. Everything in moderation seems best but too much querying and double checking can affect concentration. Just saying ...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissCamden
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i'd advise buying a good grammar book where you can easily look up stuff, that would save you some time. otherwise do not worry about being slow, unless it starts feeling like a chore. as long as you enjoy studying, your pace does not matter, only regular practice does!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seacc3

Haha...no. I'd be willing to bet you are a very interesting person. Are you a first born? An only child? In any case, do what feels right...enjoy the ride. :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Marie-Clai133496

An interesting question!

If you are always investigating other alternatives, you will go at snail pace...At the same time, you become a bit of an expert on alternatives and possibilities...

The question is , what is your real goal?

I must admit I myself enjoy reading the discussions on new or tricky sentences, so I just do a lot of timed practices to speed my automatic learning abilities, and reward myself with a new lesson... I write down the sentences I get wrong in strengthening exercises and go through them quickly on paper. That quickens things a bit...

C'est une question d'équilibre je pense. Bon courage avec vos études!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KyraJackson03

You need to do research to help you strengthen your language. Be patient! Sometimes it takes longer for some people to learn different things. You can also talk with people in the language that you're learning. It really helps.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/potatoeglot
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I know that this discussion is a day old but I must say, you're not alone!

I am currently doing 4 courses, and I do 3 exercises for each language every day. That alone already takes up some time. But then when I see an item I don't quite understand or a comment that I want to correct, I do research which usually lasts for 15-30 minutes. Because of this, I end up spending more than 3 hours to reach my daily goal D:

As one commenter mentioned, it all depends on your goal. Do you want to learn quickly or are you in it for the learning experience? If it's both, you can make a compromise. On some days, you can do your extensive research. On other days, you can just quickly do your lessons. But if you like the research, then it's fine. Keep it up :)

Also, 243 days! Congratulations and good luck!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Great, helpful and encouraging replies. Thank you all! Just one point I would like to respond to particularly. I signed up to the timed practice long ago, but I do not find it helpful due to my slow typing speed. If the sentence is a longer one I always time out so I don't get very far at all!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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I have found that I get so stressed by the timed practice that I make every conceivable error and as you say get timed out. No, I'd much rather do the strengthening exercises without the timer and keep my blood pressure normal.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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If you're investigating grammar points, then it can probably be worth it. At level 21, I'd imagine you're refining some of the more nuanced points; certainly best to be making good habits rather than ingraining poor ones. If you're doing in-depth investigation of vocabulary, I'd suspect that's more profitably done with more authentic material where the context will be much more informative, and you'll lean more like how you learned your first language.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Thanks. I think you are right. I think I have thought that by going to the discussions I would get a quick answer to my query, but it takes much longer than looking up something in a book or even on-line (I am very bad at finding what I want on-line -maybe an age-related thing, I am 69 in 5 weeks). I probably could have found what I needed as far as vocabulary is concerned in my hard copy of Collins Easy learning French Dictionary more quickly than looking on-line. It even has some grammar in it. And get there more quickly than the discussion page takes to load! I have tried Reverso on-line too, but usually only after failing to find what I want in the discussion and then I often take quite a time to get what I want there too.

I will try my hard copy dictionary for a bit.

I am at level 21 due to all the times I have done strengthenings, but have not progressed very far with the whole French tree. There are often new words or constructions thrown in to the strengthen exercise, as well as questions I previously got wrong and didn't find a reason for being wrong, so I keep needing to strengthen. if I don't understand why I am wrong I find I cannot just learn something. I think I have at the back of my mind that DL may be wrong and I don't want to learn something wrong. In some cases I have managed to say to myself 'this is what DL wants, right or wrong' but that 'learning' only seems to last for the length of that particular strengthen exercise. It is more like short term memory than learning.

Thanks for your helpful input. I think I'll have a discussions break now and get back to the learning. though last night I was looking at places to stay in Calais for a couple of days to try to practice French. Calais is my nearest French town. I was wondering if I might do just as well going to the port in Dover or Newhaven (nearer) and finding French people waiting to board! Maybe they would be happy to let me practice my poor French. I have tried our local Anglo-French Market early, before there are many customers, but they are more interested in talking to each other than to me once they find out I am not going to buy much. And I think if I bought on each stall just to practice I could go across to France for less. The items are quite pricey.

Thanks again.

Edit: just to say I have another 10 skills to go to finish my French tree even though I have achieved level 22 now. I am still struggling to remember the tenses, particularly future and conditional so I keep strengthening all the tenses to try to get them into my old brain..

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adder3
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As you continue doing this you will learn more and more, it is not a waste of your time at all, you probably have absorbed something in your research which has allowed you to look at the problem in a different way that allows you to see your own mistake/misunderstanding. Do not blindly accept the answers given by Duolingo they do not always accept all correct options and sometimes you have to supply feed back as to what's wrong with it. I've received many emails from Duolingo saying that my suggestion has been accepted..

1 year ago