https://www.duolingo.com/I_AmA_Badger

Clarification on partitive article

Bonjour,

I'm early on in learning French and have no experience with it before Duolingo. I try to write a lot of examples in my own notebook for extra practice and came across this confusion in the grammar notes after the Food lesson.

The partitive article that refers to a feminine noun is 'de la.' The example sentence given is "Je mange de la viande" which translates in English to "I eat some meat." With meat I understand it as one does not eat "a meat," one eats "some meat."

While trying to invent new examples I tried out "Tu manges de la carotte" as 'la carotte' is also a feminine noun. Is this a proper sentence? Or does it need to be "carottes?" And if so does anything else in the sentence need to be pluralized for agreement? Typically I would say "I eat a carrot" or "I eat some carrots." I can see how "I eat some carrot" could still be proper, it's just a little unusual sounding to me and I don't know which is most correct for French usage.

Merci!

9/3/2017, 7:58:57 PM

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Lemniscatarum
  • 25
  • 25
  • 16
  • 10
  • 5

If you want to say that you eat some carrots:

vous mangez/tu manges des carottes

Des is for the plural noun regardless of gender and des means some. Carottes is the plural of carrot.

9/3/2017, 8:25:42 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/I_AmA_Badger

Ah, I guess this lesson had not yet introduced 'des' yet so I was going a little too fast. That makes sense.

9/3/2017, 8:31:37 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MarcD50
  • 13
  • 12
  • 10
  • 8

Only one r in French: carottes.

9/4/2017, 11:57:16 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Lemniscatarum
  • 25
  • 25
  • 16
  • 10
  • 5

Merci pour corriger!

9/4/2017, 1:03:52 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/tech274
  • 25
  • 25
  • 15
  • 899

Tu manges des carottes = You eat (some) carrots

Tu manges la carotte = You eat the carrot

Tu manges les carottes = You eat the carrots.

9/3/2017, 10:39:14 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MarcD50
  • 13
  • 12
  • 10
  • 8

Yes, and we can add:

Tu manges une carotte = You eat a carrot.

Tu manges quelques carottes = You eat some/a few carrots.

9/4/2017, 12:05:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
  • 15
  • 10
  • 9
  • 8
  • 7
  • 6
  • 6
  • 5
  • 5
  • 4
  • 4
  • 4
  • 3
  • 2
  • 2
  • 2
  • 2

I am little more than a beginner, but I believe it is ''Tu manges la carrotte.'' However, I may not be correct.

9/3/2017, 8:20:39 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/I_AmA_Badger

I think that's correct and I'm just thinking of too many different possible ways to say it, each slightly different.

9/3/2017, 8:32:21 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Ripcurlgirl
  • 25
  • 25
  • 25
  • 13
  • 4

Remember, partitive aticles are used for unspecified amounts of uncountable nouns such as water, meat etc. Carrots, becuase they can be counted, do not use partitive articles.

9/3/2017, 11:26:12 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MarcD50
  • 13
  • 12
  • 10
  • 8

Yes, but the rule is not as strict as that. Ex: Je mange un pain/une baguette/un gâteau. Je mange du pain/de la baguette/du gâteau.

'Je mange de la carotte' is correct, but very unusual (just like 'I eat carrot' in English).

9/4/2017, 12:03:01 PM
Learn French in just 5 minutes a day. For free.