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Letter help pronunciation...?

I know I don't have a very impressive list of languages, I'm just learning. But I need some help on how to pronounce certain alphabets' letters. I don't expect EVERY single person to give me an answer on ALL of these, but just a couple would be nice. How do you pronounce... ...ł? (Polish) ...ы? (Cyrillic) ...æ (Norse/Old latin) (PLEASE! Inform me on this one!) ...œ (French...?) Just these ones for now. Hope I'm not asking for a lot :D

-Thanks

9/4/2017, 1:51:58 AM

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https://www.duolingo.com/tiramisues
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Check out this site: https://forvo.com/

You can search for specific words (you just need to find one with the letters you want) and listen to audio recordings by native speakers. Most of the words were recorded by more than one speaker, so you can compare.

9/4/2017, 4:02:50 AM

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IMO, for a person who just got to level 5 in one of the trees that you ask about, you do ask a lot!-)

Anyway, you can check for yourself places like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Latin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/French, etc

for all the sounds in various languages. HTH, Daniel.

9/4/2017, 5:09:47 AM

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The Polish Ł sounds to me like the English " w" , as in "wow!" But I would definitely check out the other tips.

9/4/2017, 5:56:45 AM

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Within a word, that's pretty close, if not spot on. The name of that letter sounds like trying to say "ehl" + "wuh" at the same time. ... "ehwl"

9/4/2017, 12:09:43 PM

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Thanks for the bringing that out. : ) .....I am actually having a difficult time with the Polish word "W" pronounced in English as "vu" ( ? or that's what I hear ) When it is used in between words in a sentence it seems to almost disappear but not quite...? It almost makes an English "F" or if you could make the sound "VF" followed immediately by the sound of the next word- as if it was all one word and not two words. Then again a native or fluent speaker seems to make all Polish words flow and meld into each other when speaking at their natural pace. That's my perception at least.

9/4/2017, 2:51:55 PM

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You're welcome and you are correct. The Polish letter "w" is pronounced like an English "v" as in victory. The "vf" sound you might be hearing might be a regionalism. I'm not a native speaker, so I can't say. But, for example "Warszawa" (Warsaw) is pronounced as "var-SHA-va." (two v sounds)

9/4/2017, 8:05:41 PM

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Yes... I am also talking about this type of example: "Byliśmy w sklepie" -- it's hard for me to hear the distinction between the words for in and store when spoken at a normal conversational pace.

9/4/2017, 9:37:56 PM

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Ah! Yes, "w" used in that way is said pretty fast ... almost an "f" sound, you're right. And joined to the next word, which is why it may be hard for you to hear.

9/4/2017, 11:15:37 PM

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Yeah I'm almost tempted to forget pronouncing the "w "completely ! --- (Though I know that would probably be frowned upon by Polish speakers. :( )

9/5/2017, 12:43:23 AM

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It's worth to know, that there are pairs of sounded and muted consonants (well, they are audible, but are spoken silently, a bit like a wisper, I don't know the proper grammar term for that). These are: b-p, dz-c,, dź-ć, d-t, w-f, g-k, z,-s rz/ż-sz, ź-ś (in each pair the first is given sounded sound). Both sounds in a pair are produced in almost the same way except that sounded adds a sound from larynx. However when there are few consonants followed one by another they may change a sounded consonant into muted or vice-versa (if I recall the rule correctly the following consonant is pronounced in the manner of the preceding so e.g. if the preceding sound is muted and the next one is sounded it will be still pronounced as its muted equivalent). As an example you can see "kwadrat" (square) - theoretically sounded w after muted k will be pronounced as muted (so it will sound like f). BTW h/ch are muted and without a pair however historically h was sounded while ch muted. There are also few consonants that are only sounded (j, l, ł, r) or nasal (m, n, ń). Hopefully my explanation helps a bit

9/4/2017, 10:15:29 PM

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The Cyrillic one I believe doesn't make a sound. But do look at the website tiramisues has given.

9/4/2017, 6:24:44 AM
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