https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

Sie v Ihnen?

When should I use Sie (formal) or Ihnen? For example, "Darf ich Sie herumfuhren, um Ihnen die anderen Kollege vorstellen?

September 4, 2017

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/jzsuzsi

Sie for nominative and accusative case, Ihnen for dative case.

For example, Wie geht es Ihnen? is similar to Wie geht es dir?

Darf ich Sie herumfuhren, um Ihnen die anderen Kollege vorstellen? = May I lead you around, to introduce the other colleagues to you?

September 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

Thank you, that's helpful.

September 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

As jzsuzsi has aced your question, I thought I would just mention that I believe your example sentence should read:

„Darf ich Sie herumführen, um Ihnen die anderen Kollegen vorzustellen?

With an umlaut on the "u" in "herumführen" and a "zu" in "vorzustellen".

EDIT: + "n" in "Kollegen" thanks to gSY55q97

September 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/gSY55q97

anderen Kollegen

September 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Good spot, cheers!

September 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

Thanks, I meant to write "---, und Ihnen die anderen Kollegen vorstellen."

September 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Not a problem!
That does give it a(n) (ever so slightly) different meaning (and remove the need for "zu")!

September 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/gSY55q97

You are welcome. ☺

September 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Ich muss schon sagen (und ich glaube, dass ich für Duolingos ganze deutschlernende Gemeindschaft spreche), dass die Arbeit, die du und all der anderen Deutschmuttersprachler hier auf Duolingo machen, um unser (als Deutschlerner/innen) Deutsch zu verbessern, wird sehr dankbar bekommen.

Wir wissen (oder zumindest sollen wissen), dass ihr uns nicht helfen müsst, aber ihr helft uns trotzdem.

Danke schön

September 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

Adam, I am on level 15 v your level 25. Does the difficulty factor increase at all at your level? I'm finding it odd that words longer than say 6 letters don't feature in Duolingo at level 15. Do you have any encouraging comments? regards,

September 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Hi Rob,
I want to say yes.
I'm certain that words longer than 6 letters appear regularly in my exercises (though I wouldn't be surprised if "6" was a slight exaggeration on your part), and having completed the entire tree; all topics and grammar areas covered in the duolingo course can (and do) come up in the exercises I do.

However, if I can remember the difficulty at level 15 (and it was a little while ago), I don't feel that it was all that much easier than it is now. Certainly, if you haven't covered major grammar areas like the past tense or the genitive case, then there will be a noticeable difference in difficulty; but generally speaking I don't think the difficulty hikes up particularly as you get to the dizzying heights of level 25 (tongue firmly in cheek re:"dizzying heights" :).

Don't know if that was encouraging or depressing, but I hope I could help.

September 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

Hi Adam, Thanks, I was being a bit provocateur about the six letters, but it does seem Duolingo will never break out of 'easy reader' mode. I have gone back over Duo Dative & Genitive today. Its been some time since I last addressed them. Is level 25 the top level?I might try and push on. regards, Rob

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Hi Rob,
I'd be lying if I said one doesn't need a comprehensive understanding of the cases (conscious or otherwise) to excel with this language.

Level 25 is indeed the top level. Pushing on is of course only a decision you can make, and of course there are plenty of other resources available if you decide you want to move away from duolingo,
but I would recommend pushing on.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob905274

I have been spending time on Babbel, since I got bored with lvl.15. I have to pay to get good lessons, currently £30/yr special offer, but it gives realistic conversation's at normal speed. So I think, using Duo for grammar and general vocab & Babbel for specific topics could strike the right balance. Alles Gute

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Sounds like you've struck a good balance there.

Viel Glück und viel Erfolg beim Deutschlernen

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/gatiquo

Check out when to use formal (Sie), or informal (du).

September 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean

Actually, this isn't a question of formality (Sie/du), but of case (Sie/Ihnen).

September 4, 2017
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