https://www.duolingo.com/cartwright12

Creating a music/ear training course (hear me out)

I know this isn't your typical language request, but I think it's worth thinking outside the box on this one. Several studies indicate close connections between musical perception and language development(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3338120/). I suggest creating a music/ear training course in English that: 1. Trains tonal discrimination (pitches and timbre) and aural recall 2. Teaches the American English vocabulary of music (if successful, we can create vocabulary versions in different languages). This would include interval names, triadic and 7th chord qualities, etc.

I think it would primarily benefit music students, but the benefit for other language learners taking music simultaneously would be increased aural perception of foreign sounds (in particular, languages where pitch inflection is important).

I know there are tons of ear training courses out there in schools, apps, CDs, MP3s, etc. (I know, I've taken most of them). I think most of these training mechanisms miss the mark. In my opinion, music education would be improved by leveraging language pedagogies instead of traditional ear training methods.

I'd love to contribute to this project if any others want it. I have studied music privately for over twenty years and have a music minor with an emphasis in theory. I have a good musical ear, but I am always looking to improve.

Thoughts?

September 7, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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Sounds like a good idea. Although I can't contribute, I'd definitely try the course out,.

September 7, 2017

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This is an interesting suggestion but I don't think that this sort of tone discrimination would be a proper fit for the Duolingo format. It strikes me that it would be more appropriate for something with a more straightforward flashcard format, like memrise.

September 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Linda7Italian

Wonderful! For me, language and music go hand in hand though I realise it isn't for everybody of course. I have put some tricky Italian verbs to music and it is a pleasure to sing and remember them. Tanti auguri, Linda

September 7, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cartwright12

I'll add that I think the Duolingo method would be well suited for tonal discrimination. Not sure about aural recall; that probably depends what the app does under the hood.

Also, the idea of refreshing your skills to keep them at gold is a really nice feature that would work well for ear training.

September 7, 2017

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Interesting idea!

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Fieldcrj913

sounds great! language is simply a way to express yourself, is it not? and what can do that better than music? :) <3 :) sorry can not contribute but can definitely say that I will put everything I can into this course! I struggle socially, but love music, (I play piano AMEB grade 7, also play various other instruments) but unfortunately not that great with playing by ear so would be very much appreciative of this course if it should go ahead! :)

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cartwright12

Expression aside, music is unique as an art because audible noise communicates certain information that can be written and read (or played). Therefore, I think music (as an art) is much closer to a traditional language than something like photography. Just my opinion.

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/we_speak_arabic

I have been looking into other ear training mobile apps. As a practicing acoustician, I have trained my ear to different sound qualities but still looking forward to have that golden ear.

September 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cartwright12

I'm thinking about making a flashcard set as a proof of concept, but it doesn't look like Tinycards supports custom audio.

Does anyone know of a different flash card app that could support custom audio recordings with text and pictures?

September 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Linda7Italian

Ciao Cartwright12, sorry, can't help. Good luck ...

September 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Linda7Italian

P.s. to Cartwright! I was thinking about Pavarotti today (he died ten years ago on the 6th September). He had superb pronunciation and the first time I understood-without-surtitles was a joy. I learnt a lot from listening to him. Just needed to say that:-)

September 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cartwright12

How many up votes does it take to get something added to the incubator?

I assume more than 14.

September 9, 2017

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It's difficult to have thoughts when someone has so widely explained such a fantastic idea. ☺

May 9, 2018
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