"책하고 남자"
Translation:A book and a man
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As a native speaker, the TTS pronunciation is heard as "Let's stay here with a book/books."
남자 (man) : If we Koreans write this just as heard in Hangul, It will be '남자'
남-(stay in postion) + -자(Let's) : This will be '남짜'
Both words are written as '남자' in orthography.
Korean language has several words for English 'and'.
For 'A man and a woman':
An independent conjunction word '그리고'. If we use this one between nouns, it feel like very formal or poetic and NOT used for neutral purposes.
남자 그리고 여자.
Endings after nominals.
-과/와 : most neutral and used both in speech and writing. 남자와 여자
-하고 : informal and usually used in speech. '하고' is also used as '하-(do) + -고(a verbal ending).
남자하고 여자
-이랑/랑 : informal and usually used in speech. 남자랑 여자
Same as in English,we have many wordsfor/meaning 'and': -and -with -plus -in addition to -also -as well as -along with -together with
We just dony think of them because it's a language we are used to. But they serve the same purpose.
Heh then I wasn't wrong, I repeat man with the pronounciation I find it valid, but this say DAMJA and not NAMJA indeed. And there are a few silly other examples I'm pretty sure the TTS is wrong about
I wish i could save this comment in the app as a reference. Will screenshot instead
I don't know if everyone noticed that 책하고 is read in a different way, because ㅎ is not pronounced (like ㅇ) when there is a consonant before.
To everyone: Yes, it's an h, but is is silent sometimes. Duolingo has an explanation for this in the "Alphabet 2" section notes if you are using a computer.
From reading these notes, it says that ㅎ "disappears" before a vowel, but, at least to me, this explanation is not clear. It may be that ㅎ only is silent when it is after a consonant AND before a vowel. I am not sure.
To add to what you said, it seems that you drop the H sound when it flows better. Just like in English, sometimes you drop sounds when you say stuff fast or when you'd have to pause to enunciate the sound.
Its not as much strong as english 'H' so it tends to vanish alot before or after consonants.
All nominal endings above can be used as the meaning of 'with'.
"I made a toy with my dad." can be translated in Korean as:
나는 아빠와 장난감을 만들었다.
나는 아빠와 함께 장난감을 만들었다. ('함께': together)
나는 아빠랑 장난감을 만들었다.
나는 아빠하고 장난감을 만들었다.
My understanding is that, as in many SE Asian languages, nouns in Korean do not decline by number. So 책 can mean "(a) book" or "books" depending on the context.
I mean, if I said "I bought book," it may be improper English, but you would still understand what I did. And if it's important to indicate how many, I suspect I could use a counter (one book, ten books), or an adjective (like "only" or "many"), but otherwise, it just kinda... doesn't matter.
They don't decline, it's not a declension language, no conjugations, but plurals exist with a particle, but it's the same. The difference is rather in the implicit/explicit plural, as you said, plural is implicit in this language, unless it can't be guessed from the context.
As far as I know the korean language have 들 to let you know that it is plural, but while talking they don't say it or when they already used a number they don't say it again. Hope this helps... ^^
Korean don't have singular or plural, we need to consider according to sentence
i got this far and still do not understand how to read or say anything any tips?
To read hangeul. I think you must remind how to write the hangeul and practice to write and say it
It's a way to say "and" which is mostly used verbally, whereas the other two ways we've seen thus far are more commonly used in writing.
The example you used would be incorrect, according to what I know thus far. 와 means and, but comes after a vowel. 과 means and, but comes after a consonant. So it should be 책과 남자, not 책와 남자. But to answer your original question, yes, you could use 하고 or 과 and both would be correct.
와 is common in writing and only used after a vowel and 하고 is common in speaking and 과 is common in writing and only used after a consonant.
I really don't understand why woman and women is such a different thing (same for man and men) I alloways fail...
In English it is different “woman can only be one female person while “women” is plural, more than one and “man” can only be one male person, while “men” is more than one.
How come writing a man and a book is wrong? Is order in subjects really that important?
Can someone please explain why here I use the particle 하고 instead of one of the others?
It's just another way to say "and". Nothing special about it. It is more common in the spoken Korean than the other two.
Yes both means the same, but you can use 과 for saying: an apple and a pencil. But 하고 its more like, an apple with a pencil- it can be the same sentence
I want to share an excellent comment about the "grammar rules" that Duolingo inconsistently imposes: "@ellablun [...] when a language one is learning doesn't use articles, then translation to english should not enforce usage of particles either. we're not learning english here, so stop molesting us with english grammar. Secondly, if you're gonna force us to type articles, then clarify [...]"
Google translator says that phrase means " a man reading a book". Im confused.
sometimes it sounds like namja is pronounced like damja. I noticed sometimes "n" sounds like "d" in practice.
I've tried "book and man", "a book and a man" and "A book and a man" and it still says my answer is incorrect while telling me the right answer is "A book and a man". I'm about to throw hands with Duolingo, I swear
Double check the instructions. Were you supposed to put it in Korean?
Take a screenshot and send it in with your report. Grey help button below, scroll all the way down.
If you had to speak into the microphone, check help for that.
I think they use 하고 for the person or what and 와/과 used for food or things i dont know guys i just shared my idea im just studying for more
Which characters make the word "and" im taking notes and when i click on a word it just say "a man and" as a sentence
와 = and (attached as suffix to first noun)
See the examples here: https://www.duolingo.com/dictionary/Korean/%EB%82%A8%EC%9E%90/2ba1e0a342fb0cb291c9cd3f94f090bc
I still dont get it tho. 하고, 와 and 과 are confusing. I wish they taught us with proper rules and that we had some notea to refer to.
Why is both 'a book and' and 'books and' correct? There is no plural indicator? Or does 'book' not hav a plural in Korean? Like sheep in English?
A fact - when we read man from back it says nam , the relation between korean and English
Please can anybody tell me that me that When is "하고" And "과" Etc... Used? I mean i understand almost both have same meaning as 'and' but please tell me at what situation they are used, please friends help...
Hey there , and is 3 types as we have learned - 과 - gwa , 와 - wa, 하고- haago Thanks
| English | Hangul | Romanization | IME Typing |
|---|---|---|---|
| book | 책 | chaek | cor |
| and | 하고 | ha go | gkrh |
| man | 남자 | nam ja | skawk |
Native Korean pronunciation via Forvo: