Translation:The bread tastes bad.
If one pronounces 맛있다 as masida, shouldn't it also be maseopda for 맛없다, to keep it consistent? Here on duolingo they pronounce 맛 as mat when it comes with 없다 and mas when it comes with 있다. I notice the same going on with 멋, which alternates between meot an meos, shouldn't it be the same pronunciation in both?
I'm thinking it has something to do with the character ㅅ is 'named' sheut so if it's use can be a she or a ut sound. Though, I haven't figured out exactly when and where... I know not really helpful but maybe a clue?
ㅅ is pronounced like 시읏 (shi-eut) if you read it as a letter. It's pronounced like a sh if followed by a vowels with a y sound or an i sound, like 샤 (shya), 셔 (shyeo), 시/씨 (shi/sshi), etc. but just like an s with other vowels e.g. 서 (seo) or 수 (su). If it's at the end of a syllable like in 읏 then it's a hard s like a t sound, like how it is in 시읏, but if it's followed by another vowel sound and not a consonant e.g. 맛있어요 then it "moves" its pronunciation to where the ㅇ on the next syllable is, so it's "ma-shi-sseo-yo" and not "mat-iss-eo-yo", however the first ㅅ in 맛없어요 is an exception and it's just pronounced "mat-eob-seo-yo". I think this just sounds more natural so that's how people have decided to say it :) (please correct me if I'm wrong)
I've read somewhere that if a final ㅅ is followed by an initial ㅇ placeholder, it gets its /s/ pronunciation back. So here the audio is indeed wrong. It sould be saying "maseopseumnida".
So here are all of the pronunciation rules I'm aware of for final ㅅ: -It's pronounced /n/ when followed by an initial nasal consonant (ㄴ or ㅁ) -It's pronounced /s/ when followed by the silent placeholder consonant (ㅇ) -It's pronounced /t/ in other cases.
I've heard that for 맛없습니다, pronouncing it as "mat-obs-seub-ni-da" is actually correct even though usually the ㅅ sound would "move" to the next syllable if it isn't followed by a consonant sound. This is just because it sounds/flows better and it's just how everyone says it. Similar I guess to how 습니다 is spelt "seub-ni-da", but is actually pronounced "seum-ni-da" in conversation; rules of pronunciation don't seem to always apply!
This word is an exception to the pronunciation rule. The audio is not wrong.
http://organickorean.com/7-sounds-of-korean-final-consonants-받침/?ckattempt=1 this article helped me out a lot with learning the pronunciations of the final syllables. Certain characters (consonants) have different pronunciations when they are placed at the end of a syllable. This article has a table with all of them and their uses
Isn't it interesting how in a lot of languages, including Latinate languages, the word "bread" starts with a "p/b" sound? I wonder if it's like "mom," which the reason why it almost always has "m" in it, is because it's one of the babies first sounds it can say. Hmm.
I think its more like "is" and "is not", or "have" and "do not have". Like 남자가 멋있습니다 would translate more into "the man HAS coolness"
Urgh this is my problem as well. I'm just gonna assume that 가 and 이 are for more specific subjects (like the bread in the sentence) and 는/은 are for general statements. Maybe "Bread tastes bad." translates to "빵은 맛없습니다"
Idk, I hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I think I'm definitely wrong lol
Either or is technically correct; i notice duolingo just mixes it up whenever it wants. Remember, 는/은 is used when its the first time you are introducing a topic, and then after wards in the conversation you would use 가/이. Though, using either or is technically correct
Isn't this more of a "not good" instrad of "bad"? Like it literally just means lacking flavor. If it actively tasted nasty, it would be like 빵이 싫어요
Yes literally it means no flavor or not delicious. But generally it means bad. There's a seperate word for bland.
It really means it has the quality of having no taste, but for this lesson they are calling it bad.
I actually don't know this app don't accept translations similar to the answer. E.g. between "not tasty" and "tastes bad" I really don't know how to differ them in korean