https://www.duolingo.com/-Avian

Looking for a new Tree

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I've really buckled down with Spanish, learning, learning, & learning not only because I need to, but because it's also very enjoyable and fun. I'm nowhere near being fluent, but feel ready to except another language into my oh-so-sowly-developing arsenal of languages.

I was hoping to find a few languages related to my lineages, and I was happy to find German, Welsh, Norwegian, and Irish/Gaelic. But I was also disappointed when I could not find Persian. It may not be related to me in any way, but I have been interested in this language ever since I watched the movie "The Prince of Persia: Sands of Time", and I became curious why the actors were speaking English and not Persian, xD.

I understand that Persia is now referred to has Iran, which is right next to Iraq, where they speak Arabic, but I could also could not find Arabic. Perhaps 'Lingo could add one of these? Or maybe even both?

As for the new Tree, which should I go for? Any recommendations? Welsh, Norwegian, or Irish? I'm not really feeling German right now, so it's just between those three.

~K_E.

9/9/2017, 11:33:34 PM

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Irish is very hard: If you're up for a challenge, there you go.

Norwegian has been rated as the easiest language for English speakers: If you prefer easy languages, there you go.

I have no idea about welsh.

As for adding Arabic and Persian, people have applied, but they haven't got a reply from duo. We don't know when, or if, Arabic or Persian will ever be added.

9/9/2017, 11:40:23 PM

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Welsh is easier than Irish in my opinion

9/10/2017, 12:00:08 AM

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Irish sounds pretty entertaining. If it's too easy, that makes it boring, you know? Hopefully Persian and Arabic will be added sometime in the future--soon!

9/10/2017, 12:22:49 AM

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If it's too easy, I think ''Yay, I'll finish this tree in no time!'' :). I like learning Korean, which has been rated as one of the hardest languages for native English speakers though.

9/10/2017, 1:06:12 AM

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Aye, you got me there, mate. :P Sounds intense! Perhaps I'll look into Korean.

9/10/2017, 6:17:18 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/DaphneTheSnail

If you're sure you want to try another language, it should definitely be Swahili. It is usually overlooked but it is a truly fascinating language. It's also the only African language on Duolingo (Hopefully that changes one day)! Sense you seem to be a bit interested in Arabic, Swahili is a great place to start. It adopted tons of words from Arabic (When I say tons, I mean tons) and also quite a few from English! It doesn't have the confusing writing that Arabic does though. It is like English with the same letters and no weird symbols over/under the letters. The pronunciation is surprisingly simple. Overall, it is an amazing language and you should try a few lessons to see if you like it. Have fun with whatever language you choose!

9/9/2017, 11:48:01 PM

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You make a really good case. Maybe when I finish my Spanish tree, I'll do Swahili.

9/10/2017, 1:01:04 AM

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Okay! :)

9/10/2017, 1:34:46 AM

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Wow...that pretty much blew me away. Good case indeed! I'm thinking I'll be checking it out. xD Sounds very entertaining! Arabic you say?

9/10/2017, 6:27:42 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/DaphneTheSnail

Yup! Just search Swahili terms derived from Arabic and Wikipedia has a huge list.

9/10/2017, 6:49:38 PM

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Neat! Thanks bunches, TSDude!

9/10/2017, 9:16:51 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/DaphneTheSnail

Karibu, Kinetic_Energy!

9/10/2017, 9:23:51 PM

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I'm going to pretend I understand what that means, TSDude. xD

9/10/2017, 9:30:37 PM

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I would recommend Norwegian. From what i've seen of it it is a beautiful language. I don't really like the sound of Welsh or Irish but that's just my opinion. And of course i would have picked german but you say you don't want it. Good luck with your new tree :)

9/9/2017, 11:37:55 PM

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Thank you for your advice and the luck!

9/10/2017, 6:04:29 PM

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You could try Portuguese, Italian or French since they're similar to Spanish in a lot of ways. However, I recommend sticking with Spanish and trying to become as fluent in it as possible. I know it's very tempting to want to try all the trees on this site, but in the long run one language at a time will be best. You'll progress at a much faster rate and retain more.

9/9/2017, 11:41:23 PM

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sorry, didn't read the last bit of your comment. Norwegian is probably closest to English, which will make it a little easier to learn.

9/9/2017, 11:43:42 PM

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Well, I'm seeking a challenge, so. C: And I very much agree! Spanish will come first--any second language will simply be a pastime until I become fluent in Spanish. And right now, I desperately need to become fluent.

9/10/2017, 6:29:48 PM

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I would recommend learning a non romance language so you don't confuse the vocab with Spanish

9/10/2017, 12:02:03 AM

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Is Irish a romance language? Something tells me it isn't. . .Perhaps it's because the Irish were known for their drinking & merrymaking. xD

9/10/2017, 6:09:57 PM

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The Duolingo language families are as follows Celtic: Irish & Welsh Romance: Spanish, Portuguese, French, Catalan, Italian, Romanian Germanic:West:English,Dutch,German; North: Danish, Norwegian, Swedish Slavic: Russian, Ukranian, Polish, and Czech Ugric: Hungarian Hellenic: Greek Semitic: Hebrew Bantu: Swahili Austro-Asiatic: Vietnamese Altaic** theoretical language family that probably doesn't exist: Turkish, Japanese, Korean (which personally I consider very different and unrelated but Korean and Japanese do have some similarities, Turkish really does not IMO

9/10/2017, 6:24:45 PM

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Ah, so they are Romance languages?

9/10/2017, 6:43:24 PM

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Irish is not, it is a Celtic language with Welsh. So you will find that less vocab will be mixed up

9/10/2017, 6:56:24 PM

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Ah, good. Thank you, Antonio!

9/10/2017, 9:15:14 PM

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Depends on where you are. If you live in the UK or Ireland or anywhere in that area, shoot for Irish or Welsh. Not too many people use the languages, though. I'd personally go for Norwegian, as I'm quite interested in Norwegian myself, but kinda put off by the fact that most Norwegian people speak English better than I do.

9/10/2017, 1:37:21 AM

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Ha, well I'm live Colorado, USA. xD I'm now trying to decide between Irish or Welsh, but I would mostly be learning a new language as a pastime, for if I ever traveled to that area I'd be headin' to Scotland. I have a friend who has been down to Wales--I've heard it's beautiful.

9/10/2017, 6:22:34 PM

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All of the UK is beautifull (except maybe Dungeness and Ilkely Moor with or bha'tat) in a myriad of differenr ways. Scotland is more obviously rugged than Wales, somehow Wales disguises its ruggedness with more greenery - unless you head to Blaenau Ffestiniog which is slate grey on even the sunniest day!

Scotland is only 5 - 7 hours drive from Wales, so you could visit both. It's like driving from Detroit to Niagara via Windsor (I did there and back in a day) with fewer motorways/freeways.

9/10/2017, 6:55:28 PM

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Ah, can't wait. xD Scotland has always called to me--most likely because there's a ton of Scottish blood on my grandmother's side of the family. German on my grandpa's side.

9/10/2017, 9:35:01 PM

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Norwegian. It is far easiest than the other two and much more widley spoken.

Irish is spoken in Ireland but is mainly overtook by English. Also it is difficult.

Welsh is related to Irish and difficult too. It is spoken in parts of Wales, a region in my country the UK, but again most people speak English.

9/10/2017, 1:54:55 PM

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Hmm. I'm looking for a challenge, so I'm not sure I want to pick the easiest, but I also know everyone has different opinions on which languages are hard and which are easy. Anyway, thanks much for the advice!

9/10/2017, 6:09:06 PM

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IMO the hardest are Turkish, Polish, Hungarian, Czech, Vietnamese for the tones, Hebrew, Klingon soon, and I found High Valyrian to be hard. German Danish and English are the hardest germanic language IMO so the others are easy. All slavic languages are hard for non slavic speakers, Polish almost killed me. Since you seem to be showing interest in the Celtic languages I would recommend trying both and deleting whichever you don't like. I was more interested in Irish culture but I decided I really love the Welsh language

9/10/2017, 7:02:02 PM

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I need to speak up for Welsh!!! It's really not that difficult (I'm finding Irish harder but that may be because I've never had face-to-face lessons in it). As to where it is spoken and how many speakers - well, obviously it is spoken in Wales, and the number of speakers is rising rapidly - the Welsh Government is aiming for 2 million by 2020. Welsh is taking presedence over English in signage and, depending on where you live, you can watch S4C, the Welsh language TV station and listen to Radio Cymru. I recommend listening from early on - don't expect to understand anything at first, just absorb the cadence and rhythms, then rejoice when you start recognising words and then phrases. I found this helpful in many languages. And Welsh is also spoken in Patagonia. Amazing eh?

I've not tried Norwegian yet, but I am enjoying learning Swedish, so I'd say go for Norwegian if it interests you. But remember that Welsh is the "Language of Heaven" ;o)

And don't be afraid to try more than one at a time - some days are Welsh days and some are more Italian for me!

Watch out for ThatSnailDude, he's out to get all of us to speak Swahili - he's already got me hooked :oP

9/10/2017, 4:08:21 PM

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Since most people are saying Norwegian is fairly easy, and since I'm seeking a challenge, I think I'm starting to lean more towards Welsh or Irish. I've always been fascinated with Gaelic. It has such a beautiful sound when sung. Thanks a bunch for the advice--and the facts!

Ah, hope you don't mind being friended. xD

9/10/2017, 6:15:10 PM

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Dim (no) problem! I hope you choose Welsh - It would be good to have a Welsh speaking/learning penpal (look for the book e-ffrindiau by Lois Arnold...fab beginners book).

I have gone to the last two BEAM events - Welsh folk music weekends - and discovered Welsh folk music is as energetic but somehone softer that the Irish. There's lots of it on youTube...

Whatever you choose: enjoy! There will be room for more later!! xD

9/10/2017, 6:48:16 PM

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Indeed there will be. Once again, thanks very much. I'll be checking out the music, I promise you! xD

9/10/2017, 9:36:27 PM

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And, Penpals? Are you talking about the online site? Because if so, I don't have an account there. I may be willing to create one though, if you clarify what exactly you mean.

9/10/2017, 9:39:38 PM

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I was thinkimg email "pen"pal - though if there exists such a website I would investigate.

9/10/2017, 10:03:56 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/DaphneTheSnail

XD

9/24/2017, 8:58:02 PM

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Ah, I see. Well, I do have an email account. Try googling "penpal" and you'll see what I mean.

9/10/2017, 10:58:18 PM

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Thank you all very much for all the advice. I have decided that Welsh shall be my new tree.

9/11/2017, 3:07:16 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Eevee_Hannah

well I'm disappointed to hear you don't want to learn german... but you should do irish. its nearly as awesome as.........nvm, idk. Do irish

9/11/2017, 8:52:14 PM

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Well, I'm thinking I'll start out with Welsh, then go into Irish after I've reached (at least) level five in Welsh. I mean to start today.

9/11/2017, 8:56:33 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Eevee_Hannah

ok, just giving a suggestion. :D

9/11/2017, 9:25:43 PM

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Any and all suggestions are welcome! :P

9/11/2017, 9:40:46 PM

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Good idea. I've started Irish - some of the grammar is similar to Welsh...well word order seems to be, but there's little vocab crossover that I've seen so far (Irish level 2)

9/11/2017, 11:26:28 PM

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Nice! You gotta give me some feedback later on, yea? I plan on starting Welsh later tonight or tomorrow.

9/11/2017, 11:35:36 PM
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