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"They are big now."

Translation:Jsou teď velká.

September 13, 2017



I have no clue why "velká" is the adjective used in the (supposedly) correct answer. Why would "velká" be any more correct than "velcí," absent any hint as to the gender(s) of "they"?


jsou ted' velci - why is this wrong


It isn't. Perhaps it was missing 8 months ago, but it is accepted now.


Mine is similar -- "jsou to velcí teď". Does it work?


No, the to does not belong here.


Oni jsou ted' velcí = wrong?


Cool! I'm glad you can add things like this and so quickly.

I am telling friends in Texas. Now one lady said she tried a course at her church but it wasn't what she grew up with in Texas. So I've been wondering, because this is also an issue with many languages, like Spanish in Texas is a bit different from in Mexico versus all the other countries, but overall with a little effort everybody can understand. Somewhat. I was at an open air market when a woman heard me speak Castilian spanish and asked me to talk with her husband from Spain because nobody could understand him, and he loved talking to me because we understood each other so well. So in the university in Texas and in Mexico we had a lot of words and phrases presented from particular countries, banana may be good for one country, while another preferred 'platano'. Phrases too.

I would like to suggest and maybe I haven't reached that stage yet where they are found, but I would suggest to include popular words and phrases found in the Czech communities in North America. It's not really about two different languages, but just widening our knowledge of so many more terms and phrases. However we look at it, we can say it's one language with many different forms, under one umbrella but some changes here or there, or we can look at it like that's Castilian spanish, that's Mexico kind of close to Castilian, and then US spanish often called Tex Mex. I like them all. Once I grasp whichever it is, a particular phrase, it's all spanish to me. I want to be complete and able to converse in Czech wherever I am, and spanish as well.


oni jsou ted' velky - why is this wrong?


It's coloquial czech.


could you please give example when this sentence should be used?

but still my answer should be accepted or not?


We don't accept coloquial czech. You can use this sentence for example when you say that your kuds are not babies anymore.


Hmm, if we don't learn any colloquial, when we encounter it, what will we do? Or if we wish to speak with those using it, is it impolite to continue to speak perfect university Czech? I guess not. I would prefer to blend in.


This course will show that kind of Czech that is taught to Czech children in Czech schools, to foreigners in official courses and that is examined in official Czech-language examinations. It is a mistake to call it "university Czech", it is more like "elementary school Czech".

There is a skill about Common Czech in the final skill of the course. Many Czech people who get their complain to us and say we should not show that stuff at all.


Thank you. Glad to learn that. I hope we learn a lot of colloquial as well. I like this site so much. If it's not on the page we learn at the moment, we can ask in the discussion room. I'm like a kid with a new toy. Wow.


ValaCZE actually didn't use the term "colloquial" right. Colloquial Czech is still part of standard Czech and we definitely do show colloquial vocabulary and forms throughout the course.

The version "Oni jsou teď velký" - or more accurately "Voni sou teď velký" is not colloquial, it's so-called Common Czech - the most common dialect spoken predominantly in Bohemia (Prague being in the center of Bohemia). This course introduces Common Czech in the very last skill and gets a lot of criticism especially from non-Bohemians and language purists for doing so.


In Germany it wouldn't be inpolite to use good German language when you speak to somebody who speaks colloqial German, as long, as you are not arrogant against this person. You'd rather help her or him.


Why is is velká instead of velký or velcí?


Velká is (plural) neuter. Other genders are also possible, masculine - velcí, feminine - velké.

Velký is masculine singular. It is also plural for all genders in Common Czech, but that is not standard Czech and cannot be accepted.


Hi VladaFu, now your answer is what I was just talking about in my post here a minute ago. Please check that post out and ask the webmasters can they start showing these things in many if not all of the pages in this section, if not in all sections. I really had to stop and think, Is velka m,f,n? And every word on each of these pages, like stroye', so it took time away from memorizing the fact because I'm searching not memorizing. I like to be lconfident while I study, not in a state of bewilderment or puzzled. Psychologically this is the best way to learn, you know. And thank you for you reply here. Because we need to memorize this fact of what is it, m,f,n at the start while we are formulating the right combinations of these adjectives and nouns in this plural section. It only takes an inch or two of space to add to any page.


So in this section, also, in my notes I wrote, check each to verify if it is m,f,n and add this to private notes for review.

While it's nice to have it in my private notes, after some researching digging for it, it would be much nicer to simply put into the page, "velka' neut. pl." or (n. pl.) or whatever it is.


You can always use Wiktionary and other online dictionaries. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/velk%C3%BD In later stages you can go to the Czech official prirucka.ujc.cas.cz


Thanks for the official Czech language link.


6 months ago and still no answer. I think there is too few Czech people xD Why 'velká', not 'velci'?


Because all genders are acceptable. Velcí, velké, velká, all equally possible.


VladaFu, I have a suggestion. I've noticed the need for me and others to have to go back to check if it's masculine feminine or neuter. Since this plural section alters to a different ending, a'-ending is not necessarily feminine here, as in divka, f. sing., but the question is to me, is it masculine or neuter plural or what? I'm going back a lot to verify: like, stroje' from stroj = ? m,f,n? okay I found it, it's masculine inanimate. I think it could be very helpful to add like here, in the page, that velka' is masculine inanimate or whatever it is (m. inan. pl.). That way I can focus my time repeating the fact to myself rather than searching for that fact.

I would rather spend my time ingraining the fact into my head than looking for the fact. Repetition is a much better teacher than searching is.

It would also eliminate a lot of questions. Some of the answers in the discussions to our questions sought to clarify that missing information, so having it "in hand" right there on the page would be perfect. Even after you click Check it where the translation often pops up, would be nice and time-saving, and speed up our ability to learn the language. Please pass to someone who can make the improvements.


Why is "To jsou teď velká." incorrect here? Looking through the tips and notes to see if I can determine the reason, will update if I find something.


The to does not belong here.


Soooo...after all these valuable comments, mine is the word order one. Why is "Jsou velká teď'" so wrong? I often hear ted' at the end of sentences...so I thought...


I was wondering that as well.


The sentence so nonspecific that we can't exclude it, but be aware it is not the neutral word order. It stresses they are big now (and perhaps will not be after some time). I will add it.

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