https://www.duolingo.com/choufmannf

What happened to Klingon?

I was so excited for the Klingo launch, but somehow it doesn't show up as a language, only hatching. Does anyone know what happened?

September 22, 2017

14 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/garpike

If you read the incubator updates, you'll see that they have been having some technical problems with getting Duolingo to recognise the apostrophe as a letter, as required by the orthography, and that this is delaying release.

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael.Lubetsky

He je pIqaD wIneHDI' chaH 

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick.-

Are you an A/B tester of the Klingon Course? Or, you learned it in another place?

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael.Lubetsky

No such luck....I just used "Bing Translate". :-)

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike

Unfortunately, putting what you said back into Bing translate doesn't produce anything very intelligible in the other direction. It also auto-detects it as French, which says a lot about the quality of Bing translate...

So I still have no idea what you said.

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Michael.Lubetsky

It also says something about trying to run OVS languages through translation software :-)

Anyway, what I was trying to say was "they should do the course in pIqaD" (pIqaD being the Klingon script, as opposed to the Roman; and having no capitals or apostrophes). :-)

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick.-

:'(

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NikaashDas

Bing translates into Klingon? That's so weird. Why would they do that? EDIT: garpike, I saw your reply, it's sad that no-one translates into Klingon EXCEPT http://tradukka.com/translate/en/tlh that place.

November 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling

Unicode has a proper apostrophe letter — ʼ [U+02BC] — that is distinct from the punctuation apostrophes. I wonder if the course has been designed to use that character instead of ' [U+0027, the “straight” punctuation apostrophe] or ’ [U+2019, the “curly” punctuation apostrophe]?

September 23, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike

I doubt they would have used this apostrophe as no-one would be able to enter it without installing a custom keyboard layout (it is one of those perfectly good ideas that is of very little practical value in a non-specialist context without widespread device support). I'm not sure how DL processes punctuation, as I've seen it completely ignore it some occasions but insist on it on others.

September 23, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling

Perhaps it could be handled in the same way that non-English letters can be entered during exercises with an English keyboard — by providing an on-screen button to enter the apostrophe letter. An on-the-fly substitution to change punctuation apostrophes to apostrophe letters would be ideal, but I don’t know if the Duolingo infrastructure is set up to allow per-course on-the-fly substitutions.

September 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NikaashDas

Are you a language expert? how do you know all this U+ everything stuff? It's so complicated, I just don't know how to understand it... <does google search> <starts dedicating his life to figuring this thing out without even talking to an expert (like you)> <dies of confusion>

November 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Patrick.-

Remember that September 15th was just the estimated date for thlIngan Hol. So we will have to wait a few more days until it's finally released, or, the course contributors give us a new update saying that it will be released later. I think that the course is going to be released this Sunday, but that's only a feeling I have.

September 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NikaashDas

I've been asking the same question. Thanks garpike for the answer. I'm giving you a lingot for that.

November 25, 2017
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