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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/choufmannf

What happened to Klingon?

I was so excited for the Klingo launch, but somehow it doesn't show up as a language, only hatching. Does anyone know what happened?

September 22, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

If you read the incubator updates, you'll see that they have been having some technical problems with getting Duolingo to recognise the apostrophe as a letter, as required by the orthography, and that this is delaying release.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael.Lubetsky

He je pIqaD wIneHDI' chaH 


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patrick.-

Are you an A/B tester of the Klingon Course? Or, you learned it in another place?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael.Lubetsky

No such luck....I just used "Bing Translate". :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

Unfortunately, putting what you said back into Bing translate doesn't produce anything very intelligible in the other direction. It also auto-detects it as French, which says a lot about the quality of Bing translate...

So I still have no idea what you said.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael.Lubetsky

It also says something about trying to run OVS languages through translation software :-)

Anyway, what I was trying to say was "they should do the course in pIqaD" (pIqaD being the Klingon script, as opposed to the Roman; and having no capitals or apostrophes). :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NikaashDas

Bing translates into Klingon? That's so weird. Why would they do that? EDIT: garpike, I saw your reply, it's sad that no-one translates into Klingon EXCEPT http://tradukka.com/translate/en/tlh that place.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

Unicode has a proper apostrophe letter — ʼ [U+02BC] — that is distinct from the punctuation apostrophes. I wonder if the course has been designed to use that character instead of ' [U+0027, the “straight” punctuation apostrophe] or ’ [U+2019, the “curly” punctuation apostrophe]?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

I doubt they would have used this apostrophe as no-one would be able to enter it without installing a custom keyboard layout (it is one of those perfectly good ideas that is of very little practical value in a non-specialist context without widespread device support). I'm not sure how DL processes punctuation, as I've seen it completely ignore it some occasions but insist on it on others.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

Perhaps it could be handled in the same way that non-English letters can be entered during exercises with an English keyboard — by providing an on-screen button to enter the apostrophe letter. An on-the-fly substitution to change punctuation apostrophes to apostrophe letters would be ideal, but I don’t know if the Duolingo infrastructure is set up to allow per-course on-the-fly substitutions.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NikaashDas

Are you a language expert? how do you know all this U+ everything stuff? It's so complicated, I just don't know how to understand it... <does google search> <starts dedicating his life to figuring this thing out without even talking to an expert (like you)> <dies of confusion>


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patrick.-

Remember that September 15th was just the estimated date for thlIngan Hol. So we will have to wait a few more days until it's finally released, or, the course contributors give us a new update saying that it will be released later. I think that the course is going to be released this Sunday, but that's only a feeling I have.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NikaashDas

I've been asking the same question. Thanks garpike for the answer. I'm giving you a lingot for that.

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