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Por o Para??

matteodl
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can someone tell me the difference between "por" and "para"??? sometimes i get confused... Thank you!!!!

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/GregHullender
GregHullender
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My mnemonic is that por is for input and para is for output. If the book was written "por X" then X was the writer. If it was written "para X" then X is the reader (or maybe the person who asked for the book to be written.)

This is only a rule of thumb; it doesn't work for everything. But I found it helped me organize my thoughts better around the long lists of rules that you need to learn to really do it right.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KittySch

That seems extremely confusing to me. But everyone learns and processes things in a different manner, so maybe it'll help someone out!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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I still make a lot of mistakes with them, too, but this video helps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f14Nef5zOEY

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Skutir

Para is used for People, Places, and Purposes. (Not a perfect rule but an easy mnemonic...) Also not perfect, but if you can use "by" in English, you would usually use "por" in Spanish, except for transportation (then use "en"). Yo hablo con mi amigo por telofono; yo compro una regala para mi amigo.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mtc6474
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Here is a link http://www.senorjordan.com/2011/04/02-por-vs-para/ to a Sr. Jordan video about por y para. There also a printable chart with uses.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KittySch

Thank you! That was a really good video and a nice easy to read chart. I feel like all the extra time I spent on this topic was worth it; I feel like I have mastered this skill. I knew all the correct answers for the quiz and when he went over the uses I knew which he was going to use before he announced it. This proves working really hard on a skill pays off because I used to struggle greatly with this skill.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KittySch

sure thing... this is taken straight out of one of my books, but i think it's the best explanation our of all my books...

uses of "por" -by, by means of
vamos por tren hablar por telefono -through, along caminamos por el parque y por la playa -during, in (time of day) nunca estudio por la manana -because of, due to estoy nerviosa por la entrevista -for=in exchange for piden $55 por el libro gracias por todo -for the sake of quiero hacerlo por ti -for=duration (often omitted) vivieron en Espana (por) cuatro anos -per hay dos premios por grupo In addition, por is used in a number of phrases, some of which are included here -por ejemplo for example -por eso that's why, therefore -por favor please -por fin finally -por lo general generally, in general -por lo menos at least -por si acaso just in case -por supuesto of course

Uses for "para" -in order to
vienen a las dos para pintar el cuarto -for=destined for El regalo es para mi esposa -for=by (deadline, specified future time) Para manana, debe tenerlo lista -for=toward, in the direction of Salio para Bolivia ayer -for=to be used for Es para guardar la ropa -for=as compared with others, in relation to others Para ellos, no es importante Para (ser) tan joven, es muy maduro -for=in the employ of Trabajan para IBM ahora

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KittySch

I'm sorry! I had it typed out all organized and easy to read on separate lines and then when I posted it, all the lines got jumbled together

I just found some really good notes from my one on one professor in Costa Rica and she mapped it out really well too, so I'm going to type these notes out for you as well, but I'm going to separate all the lines with double spacing basically so it will be easier to read!

I totally sympathize with you on learning the por and para, this was the absolute most difficult thing for me to separate when I was still learning all the grammar point in Spanish, so I know how it goes!

Usos de por

1) Razon

Ej. Enrique estudia espanol por su padre; pero a el, no le gusta.

Ej. Se caso por interes.

2) Duracion

Ej. Hablamos por dos horas.

Ej. Elena estudiara frances por 3 horas.

3) A traves de; through

Ej. El gato salio por la ventana

Ej. El reo escapo por la puerta principal

4) Medio de comunicacion

Ej. Me llamo por telefono.

Ej. Es mejor mandar la carta por correo.

5) A cambio de

Ej. Te doy mi cuaderno por tu lapicero.

Ej. Por ese reloj, nadie daria nada.

6) En lugar de

Ej. Ema vino por Jorge a la reunion.

Ej. Yo escribire por usted

7) Proximidad de tiempo

Ej. Cuando me llamaste, yo estaba por salir.

Ej. Julio esta por graduarse/

8) Precio (A veces visamos "en" en lugar de "por")

Ej. Puedes llevar 2 mangos por cien centavos . Ej. Me vendio la casa por cuatro millon centavos.

9) En favor de

Ej. Ese grupo esta por la conservacion del ambiente

Ej. Hay una marcha por los pacientes con SIDA hoy.

Usos de "para"

1) Uso especifico de las cosas

Ej. Este libro es para aprender ingles.

Ej. Esta olla es para cocinar arroz.

2) Expresa el destino final de un viaje o direccion

Ej. Vamos para Cantago manana.

Ej. Voy para mi casa.

3) Terminacion de un proyecto.

Ej. Las fotos estaran listas para manana

Ej. Todo queda resuelto para el proximo lunes.

4) El fin o el destino de las cosas

Ej. Esas flores son para cielo.

Ej. Los chocolates son para ti.

5) Fin, proposito u objetivo

Ej. Estudio para aprender quimicay

Ej Estoy aqui para conocer Costa Rica.

6) Para decir la hora.

Ej. Faltan veinte para las diez.

7) Comparacion

Ej. Juan es muy intelligente para su edad.

Ej. Para ser comprado en "Palie", es buena calidad.

Alright, well I hope that after you study these for a while that they become second nature of when to use them and you don't even have to think about it!

BTW There are no accent marks on anything because I broke my good computer with the keypad on the side and now I have a little computer without a keypad and that's the only way I know how to mark letters that need it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KittySch

I think I was missing the use of "por" for the passive voice in both of my lists of rules and examples. So if you wanted to say "The book was written by him" you would say "El libro fue escrito por el"

4 years ago

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"para" is when there is some intention and used with a verb. "por" usually is about a cause and with a name. Examples: "para comer" (to eat), por comida (for food) or "por haber comido" (by/because have eaten).

4 years ago