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Will Chinese on duolingo show characters only?

Quick question about the Mandarin course in the incubator. Will we see both characters and pinyin? And will we have the option to turn the pinyin off and only see the characters? I think this option would be extremely useful to help our learning and give a higher level of difficulty.

September 23, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

It will likely be the same format as in the Japanese & (initial part of the) Korean courses, whereby characters are initially taught as romanisations (or kana spellings), and later given an English definition when they appear highlighted in a sentence later in the lesson.
I hope there will be the bare minimum of pinyin necessary to teach correct pronunciation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ontalor

That should be what the format is. And although I agree learners should move to characters as quickly as possible, the pinyin will be strongly reinforced I think as this is a typing course and that's how Chinese keyboards are used.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BonBonChat

In the meantime you can use

ChineseSkill and HelloChinese


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OmegaGmaster

Duolingo will HAVE to show you Pinyin with Chinese characters. If they won't, the course will automatically be garbage. I don't think there will be an option to switch between the two systems though, as Duolingo will teach the Pinyin for all the characters (most likely).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WaterPolyglot

I think we Chinese people were able to live perfectly fine without the use of pinyin, like LeviPolasak said. And besides, how would you feel if you worked really hard to make something, just to hear the person you intended it for call it garbage? Personally, I wouldn't feel that great, but everyone's different.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Levi.

Not showing the pinyin won't make it garbage. They were able to live without pinyin until the 1950's. I don't think missing the Pinyin would make it trash, it would just make it more difficult for us to see how it's pronounced.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Far-quaad

I hope (this is just my opinion) that the course will only show the character, but pinyin AND translation when they are clicked on. E.g the sentence would play audio and characters like “女人” but when you clicked you could see both pinyin (Nǚrén) and definition (woman). The reason I think this is a good idea is so that a person taking the course doesn't become too dependent on the Pinyin, and instead is challenged to remember the characters instead of just reading the pinyin on top and not really learning the characters (as this is a shortfall of some other Chinese learning apps). If you just want to speak, one can get away with just using the pinyin but I find it much more fulfilling and useful to not only be able to read and recognize characters but to know how to write them out from memory which is actually quite difficult in comparison to inputting pinyin and clicking the character you recognize, even though writing skill does not affect speaking very much... I also hope to see the pinyin on/off to be an option, but as for me, I'd always have it off. Learning to read and write would be easier if a part of the course focused purely on the radicals that make up each character, knowing one's radicals makes character memorization much easier.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lizsue

Side note: Pinyin itself is made of characters too. ;)

For example, each of these counts as a written character: C 賂 2 # 갱 Φ א ص Я इ ฒ あ ホ

See http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~richard/unicode-sample.html and https://unicode-table.com/en/ (this one takes a longer time to load because it's not just a sample) to get a better view of what counts as a character. ;)

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