https://www.duolingo.com/adigaskell

Timed tests and lengthy answers

Is it me or does anyone else find it practically impossible to do the timed tests when sentences with 7-8 words are tossed into the mix? When you have to get the translation 100% correct under time pressure that's beyond me entirely.

September 28, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/garpike

Only seven or eight? Pity the poor Hungarian learners!

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Petja.
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Oh, please don't remind me of that nightmare.

September 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ally.x
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I can do timed practice in German but don't even try it for now in French. In my opinion the timed practice is for when you find non-timed one really easy (or even boring).

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/nueby

On the other hand, there is already enough pandering to the lowest common denominator round here. You will gain XPs fast with 3 word "sentences", but your learning will be nothing but an illusion. I recommend simply skipping over the long ones in timed practice.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JanLyko
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I had the same feelings three years ago. Don't worry, it will improve over time.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/adigaskell

I've been studying Czech for 3.5 years in London and still that's a tough ask to do in the 20 seconds or so you have to translate it perfectly.

Think about it. A professional typist might do perhaps 16-20 words in 20 seconds, in their native tongue. To expect someone to translate in their non-native tongue words that are not familiar at half the speed of professional typists is very tough imo.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JanLyko
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The goal is to stop translating and start thinking in that non-native tongue. Time pressure forces you to achieve such transformation.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Christine_nl

Thinking in a foreign language is not something that occurs while you're learning on DL, I think. It happens when you get more fluent than the top level, or at least in the few courses I've seen. Or maybe you can just keep repeating the materials and use other materials too. I think in two languages, I speak three other languages without explicitely translating (which is what you refer to by "thinking in the language") but now I'm learning Czech, I don't think I'll get to that point in Czech with just Duolingo.

September 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/tragram

I disagree with you on that. I'm no professional typist and yet I get around 70 words/min. :) As Jan said, the point is not to "translate" but rather to think in that language.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/adigaskell

Fair enough. I must have misunderstood then, as there are timed tests on all levels, not only when you've attained a degree of mastery. There's no way I could write 23 words in 20 seconds in Czech, not even close.

September 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/flootzavut

I use timed practice when regular practice becomes easy in any given language/skill, or alternatively when I want to gild a lot of skills quickly or just want a challenge. Sometimes that means, depending on the language, that I only get 2-3 XP, but that doesn't mean it's not good practice.

Getting 20 XP but not actually learning anything/it being easy would defeat the object IMO.

September 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/walkinwolk

I'm have exactly the same problem. A sentence containing this number of words may involve almost as many decisions regarding case, endings, word order etc. I really think they should triple the time available, but doubt the software will allow it. My other problem is I have an old computer and the audio stops working after ten minutes, so I have to used timed tests. Otherwise the non-timed tests keeps throwing audio at me until I'm back at zero. Progress is glacial.

October 8, 2017
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