"A singer is not fun."
Translation:가수는 재미없습니다.
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Rm: Jimin Jimin: Ye RM: You got no jams.
Later Jimin : Hyung meaning of You got no jams.
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What person thinks a singer isn't fun? MUSIC is the DEFINITION of fun. You got no jams Duolingo.
When I see a new word translated twice with different English words that don't seem to go together to me, I try to hold them up together in my mind & see if/where they overlap. A mental Venn diagram. So like, 재미 can mean fun and also interesting. I think it must be sort of, "engaging" or "captivating", because that's where I think fun and interesting meet. Enjoyable, specifically in a way that holds your attention.
But fun and interesting are diferent things, is this translation really ok? Like how can you say thay play at the park was Super "Interesting".... something feels off here
Some words do have several meanings in English and those meanings can be quite different at times. We just have to figure out which meaning makes the most sense for the sentence it is in.
How to know whether if we need to add a subject particle (이/가) after the noun infront of 있다/없다? For example: 가수는 매력이 있습니다 vs 남자는 재미있습니다. Notice that there's a subject particle in the first case but not in the second one. Please correct me if I am wrong, thank you.
The first one has “charm” as a noun, so while we say “ “A singer is charming.” There is a topic marker on “singer”, the Korean actually says “Regarding the singer, there is charm.” or “Regarding the singer, charm is there.” which acknowledges the subject particle on “charm”. https://www.duolingo.com/skill/ko/basics-1/tips-and-notes
There is a totally different construction for the next sentence. The adjective is actually a descriptive verb. It is not separate from the verb. https://www.duolingo.com/skill/ko/Descriptive-Verbs/tips-and-notes
I wonder why we have to use an adjective at all. I wish we could just say “Singers do not amuse.” but I guess we would always say who they are not amusing. I wonder how you could say “Singers do not amuse me.” Oops, that is a different verb. So “a singer is not fun.” is not the same thing. Maybe it really should be “funny” instead of “fun”. Maybe it is entertaining, but perhaps it is a sad song?
Could it also be phrased "A singer has charm"? In which case, "singer" is, in a manner of speaking, the "owner" of the "charm"? Which then explains the respective markers (because according to the Course Notes, you use "은/는" for the "owner" of something and "가/이" for the thing being "owned").
Thank you for the very helpful distinction between nouns and adjectives though. That has definitely made Korean sentence structure (at least, what we're learning at this stage) a bit clearer for me.
So interesting 재미 and fun 재미 are interchangable?? Is it an inferance based upon context because it seems odd for them to be the same??
They are the same. Like Japanese's Tanoshii which means interesting and fun, and Omoshiroi which means interesting and funny.
재미 should (almost) never translate to funny. I only stress this because my students confuse fun and funny all the time. This could also be translated as "the singer is not interesting" (interesting as in capturing my attention vs. intellectually interesting [흥미롭다]).
A/the singer is not funny = 가수는 웃기지 않아. / 가수는 우습지 않아.
So you don't want to put the topic marker? https://www.duolingo.com/skill/ko/basics-1/tips-and-notes
The singer is not fun = (singer + topic-marker) (fun + subject-marker) (to not be?) = gasu-neun jaemi-eobs-seubnida = 가수는 재미없습니다
does '잼' means 'jam' and with the subject particle '잼이' which later on became '재미'? Therefore, the sentence '저는 재미없습니다' which literally means 'I don't have jams'? Am I the first one to note this?
No, that is not the etymology. 잼 is a borrowing from English, referring to fruit jelly/preserve, while 재미 is a much earlier assimilation of the Chinese term 滋味, meaning “flavor”, or figuratively “experience”/“feeling”.
i'm a little confused, I leaned that '재미가 있습니다' and '재미있습니다' are interchangeable. does that only apply in the case of '재미없습니다' ?
i'm saying this because Duolingo keeps telling me that i'm making typos whenever i do this question. it's giving me the spooks !
