https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TorstenDie1

Lojban

Please everyone who wants a lojban course on duolingo say it in the comments, anyone who does not know what lojban is you can find out here: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Lojban it is similar to esparanto and klington, the new languages on duo in that they are both constructed languages(they didn't evolve over time like normal languages) but this one is, in syntax at least, completely unambiguous, and it only has less than 1400 root words, which can be converted easily into adjectives, nouns, and verbs. I see this as a great language to learn (in theory at least) but all of the existing textbooks and curricula online are too hard to follow and understand.

This is where duolingo comes in ;)

If we can get enough people to comment below that they feel that lojban should be included! Cheers!

October 11, 2017

73 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OmegaGmaster

Why are people downvoting this? What's your problem with Lojban?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/taehyoongis

it's...interesting to say the least. if you are in the conlang community you know it doesn't have the best reputation...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WesleyWils3

What are you talking about? I'm not aware of any negative reputation of lojban. As far as I know it is one of the most popular languages. Getting it on duolingo would certainly help with learning accessibility.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/taehyoongis

I've heard from people that they think Lojban is a really bad conlang. This might just be the corner of the community I've experienced, but to the rest of conlangers they might think it's great.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grimless

"Really bad" in what way? Every language has trade-offs and Lojban has relatively narrow goals, so I'm unsure what "really bad conlang" means beyond just personal hatred. I find Lojban to be a very well-constructed conlang. It's simple enough at its core to teach in an hour and I have a lot of fun teaching it to newcomers and occasionally writing short fiction. The big issue I have with Lojban is the community and overall lack of adoption. The community tends to be very opinionated, quixotic, and small. Adoption and community size would likely be significantly improved by a Duolingo course! Lojban may indeed be "really bad" for some people, but without more information, I think Lojban still deserves consideration for a Duo course on its own merits.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WesleyWils3

I haven't seen any issue with the community that we have, other than it being small. It's actually one of the most intelligent and calm groups of people with whom I have conversed. And honestly, the goal of lojban may have just been initially narrow, but its uses run a pretty wide gamut nowadays. Improving clarity, bridging human to computer interaction, being culturally neutral makes it more international, and using it for machine translation are just some features off the top of my head that I can think of. It also has a fun yet robust emotional system, and even artistic applications if you dig deep into its features.

I do agree though that the resources are not the best. It's not that they don't exist. It's that they are scattered and exist on smaller, often but not always, proprietary websites. Duolingo would give it a much more mainstream presence.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yodo9000

Is that so? I've only heard that it's hard to learn and doesn't have many great resources; and about the affair with loglan.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yodo9000

Does Esperanto have a bad reputation?
I've read a lot of arguments about things it does badly, yet it's still here on Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WesleyWils3

I don't think so. But there tends to be a lot of infighting among conlangers in general, even when the conlangs being discussed have wildly different goals.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yodo9000

Yeah, I have seen some vehement argument about it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OmegaGmaster

Ah, Lojban. I myself may not learn it for a while, but I support the creation of such a course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

Added, thanks for the shout-out :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Karin39776

I would love to have lojban on duolingo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sirIesdor

I want lojban too. It’s a very interesting language.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Xasybean.

.iesai You have no idea how much I want that.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mokurai

e'osai ko sarji la Lojban. (Please enjoy Lojban.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Heioqei

I want it to happen too


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ISpeakAlien

I am interested in learning Lojban and I think that it would be a great course on Duolingo.

Lerni lojxbanon interesas min kaj mi pensas, ke estus bonega kurso en Duolingo.

mi wile pi kama sona e toki Losupan li pilin e ni: nasin ona pi ilo Duolingo li pona mute.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dontforgetmycode

mi lukin e ni: sina toki e toki pona! sina toki e toki Epelanto. toki Epelanto li ike mute. toki pona en toki Losupan li pona mute


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/andrewsaue6

Seems like a cool idea to me.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EvelynTheCommie

Yes! One thousand times yes!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mgawalangmagawa

I want to get a sense of Lojban, so I'm all for it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

Yay! Yes please. What a treat, a Lojban course on DuoLingo. We could finally put the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis to the test!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ljburrow

Esperanto - made with the purpose of being easy to learn so as to facilitate communication between the peoples of of foreign lands.

Lojban - made primarily to facilitate logical thinking. Also supposed to be easy to learn (I don't know, haven't tried yet) so it may be usable for a similar purpose to Esperanto as a secondary benefit.

Klingon - Made to sound tough and alien as part of a TV/Movie franchise. Learned primarily by people who are big fans of said franchise.

I mean no disrespect to anyone but maybe Klingon isn't the best comparison. Maybe comparing a language to Klingon isn't the best way to get support for a Duolingo course...

Then again.. Klingon already exists as a course in beta so... I could be wrong.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OmegaGmaster

Klingon's not in beta though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blurflux

Now it is.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blurflux

Yes! It is my favorite language right after Catalan and my own native language (Portuguese)! And I really really like English, Japanese and Norwegian! Lojban deserves much more love!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/la_ricfoi

It should not come as a surprise that I strongly support this idea. If it does then that just proves that we need this :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dontforgetmycode

I can see that you support it from your username and profile picture


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kayayayayayayaya

1 year old post. still waiting for lojban. i have basically dropped learning russian to learn lojban because i think it would be more fun to learn. then again, i have many many pdf's to read if i want anything form it. DUO, Logban when?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Karin39776

Please add Lojban to duolingo


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Grimless

I would love a course on Lojban! I am an "advanced beginner" and would be happy to help contribute to the course!

.i mi ba prami lo nu cilre tau la .lojban. .i mi nintadni .ije mi ba gleki lo nu ctuca


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlastorMordrek

I would love to see a Lojban course. It's the only reason I'm currently using the rival "Memrise" app. You want me to be a premium user?, add Lojban!.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kayayayayayayaya

Lojban for duo. if i had the free time, or wasnt lasy i would probably program a application similar to duolingo in python to do it. maybe i will some day. then again i got to learn lojban first or as im writing the program.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gaston64107

Yes, I would very much love to see Lojban in Duolingo! I love the language because it does not have any grammatical exceptions, no verb conjugations, no homophonic ambiguity, not having to figure out if an object is masculine or feminine (a pet peeve of mine), a very small yet modular vocabulary, and it is just an awesome language to learn! I am very surprised that Lojban is not even on Duolingo yet.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/trainailleur

An app would be the only thing that would give me any hope of ever learning a language with so few speakers as Lojban, yet it is one of the most interesting of constructed languages.


[deactivated user]

    It would be great to see this on Duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zacharylumley

    Would love to see this course added!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YichengLiu1

    I am interested as well


    [deactivated user]

      I definitely 100% support the idea for a Lojban course.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlixB.

      I would love this course to be added.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sleepydraegon

      Please create a lojban course


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GherardoNo

      I'd like to learn Lojban. There's a serious lack of resources regarding this.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GherardoNo

      I also support it, please, Duolingo.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dibnah528

      I just became aware of Lojban and would welcome a Duolingo course to learn the language.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CadenHaustein

      I definitely agree. Lojban would be a great addition to Duolingo and I'm sure there would be plenty of people willing to help write the course.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LTeaKay

      I have tried several times to learn .lojban on my own and it's never worked well for me. I would like to learn .lojban from Duolingo.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JeremiahWi720743

      I think Lojban learners could really benefit from an interactive method of learning, especially with pronounciation and vocabulary.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yodo9000

      I think they have a Discord server, but I haven't looked any further.


      [deactivated user]

        Lojban has always looked like computer code to me:

        ni'o la teris. po'u le tirxu ge'u .e lei pendo no'u la .elis. po'u le xanto ge'u joi la zo,is. po'u le xirmrxipotigre cu xabju le cicricfoi .i la teris. ta'e djica le nu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu noi lei vinji ga'u voikla ke'a


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LTeaKay

        It was designed to be computer/machine readable, fwiw.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mrt783

        I would love a Lojban course. :)


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dontforgetmycode

        I love lojban! I don't know enough to be able to speak it, but I am currently learning it and I would love a Duolingo course


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Juni.May

        I would like to have a Lojban course too. It is a really special and interestring constructed language.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noya_

        I've always wanted to learn Lojban. A duo course would be nice to see, especially since Esperanto is already on here.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WesleyWils3

        It's time duolingo. lojban is amazing!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yodo9000

        I really like Lojban for being quite international in the etymologies of the words, much more so than Esperanto or Ido.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LewisBeck1

        I would love to have lojban on duolingo


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LaLaVox

        I would interested in learning this language!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lomicmenes

        I am interested in a lojban course

        e'o doi duo ko ctuca fo la lojban


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/itchyDoggy

        I would absolutely love a lojban course


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/similideano

        I too would love to learn Lojban through Duolingo.

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