https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.

New course request: Corsican!

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Bonghjornu! I want to request a new course, Corsican!

Why should we learn Corsican? It's an endangered language and we are unlikely to ever need it!

The fact that it's an endangered language is a good reason why Duolingo should have it! We need to save these languages! A language dies every day; Don't let Corsican be the next one! And if you ever happen to go to Corsica, then even though the language spoken there is French and some people should know a reasonable amount of English, a minor knowledge of it might be slightly useful, though to be honest, French would be much more useful.

But what's the point of learning it if there is a low chance we'll ever use it?

Corsican is in a way similar to Latin: By learning it, there is a low chance you will ever speak it, but it will help you learn other Romance languages. Also, Corsican is still spoken, while Latin is dead, so there's definitely a chance, even if a low one, that you will need it. And if Latin's one of the most requested courses on duolingo, why isn't Corsican?

Can people like you start checking Lrtward's guide before requesting a new language?

Guess what? I did! Check the list; https://www.duolingo.com/comment/15014194 Corsican isn't there!

Duolingo should add more useful languages, like Thai and Javanese and Finnish, etc. Why would they add an endangered one?

See the first thing. Summary: We need to save the endangered languages!

CORSICAN FOR DUOLINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Woof.

10/24/2017, 8:25:14 PM

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In my opinion, we cannot save languages by learning them as foreign languages. In order for a language to survive, it needs a group of actual users, native speakers of that language who need the language for their daily communication and adapt it to their actual needs.

As long as there are native speakers of Corsican, the language lives.

10/24/2017, 8:31:13 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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True, but it would be great if other people knew it.

10/24/2017, 8:32:29 PM

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A Corsican for French speakers course could help add to the group of actual users. :)

Some Corsican people who don't already know the Corsican language may want to learn it, speak it with friends and relatives in Corsica who already speak it, teach it to their kids, etc. :)

10/25/2017, 1:41:00 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/kg997

Is it safe to learn Mandarin on your current account, I want to do it to on my real account but don't want to lose progress :/

10/25/2017, 9:01:48 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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Yep, it's safe.

10/25/2017, 9:05:46 PM

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Also, a Corsican for French speakers course might be useful for teachers using Duolingo for Schools in language classes in Corsica. :)

10/25/2017, 10:12:41 AM

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Yep! And a Corsican for Italian too!

10/25/2017, 4:48:19 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster
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A language dies every day;

It's actually once every two weeks, but that's not much better. Support!

10/24/2017, 9:10:54 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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Really? I heard it was every day, but maybe they're both correct. Who knows? At any rate, it's too often. Thanks!

10/24/2017, 9:12:47 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/groscochon

"Why should we learn Corsican? It's an endangered language and we are unlikely to ever need it!" LMAO

10/24/2017, 8:29:55 PM

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Was that the only part of the discussion you read? :I

10/24/2017, 8:32:50 PM

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You may not need it but it's necessary to preserve the cultures of the languages. As soon as one language dies, so does its culture. It disappears from the face of the Earth forever, never to be remembered again, and it evaporates into the atmosphere. Culture is important for the people. It's a shame that other languages are learnt instead of their culture's language. It's one of the causes of language loss.

10/25/2017, 3:02:06 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Derpy_Learner.

it's good learning a language that is dying,it proves how much you care about languages,even a dead one.

10/25/2017, 4:16:00 AM

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OK, but note that there are thousands and thousands of languages not listed in the guide. The idea is not to list them all.

10/25/2017, 12:14:14 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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I know, I want to learn this language though.

10/25/2017, 4:47:30 PM

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Yes, but why do you want to learn this particular language?

Do you have family connections? A friend from there? Have you been there? Do you plan to live there one day? Some other connection? Or is there some feature of the language that makes it interesting from a linguistics perspective? [It being a Romance language actually counts against it - since that language group is already served quite well by Duolingo]

It just feels very generic - that you could have come across any endangered language, seen it wasn't listed in the guide, and created a request (a clone of this one with just a few words changed). In fact you could just iterate through a list of 2000+ endangered languages [*] and create requests just like this one [please don't]

If you were only allowed to create one language request ever - is this the one you would create? If so, why not tell us why.


[*]

UNESCO's Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger categorises 2,473 languages into five levels of endangerment: vulnerable, definitely endangered, severely endangered, critically endangered and extinct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_language

10/25/2017, 5:41:32 PM

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Learning a language that you will probably never practically use seems like a waste of time. Like at least learning Latin, even though it's a dead language can at least help you learn other Romance languages.

10/24/2017, 9:14:47 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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Learning Corsican will also help you learn other Romance languages, especially French and Italian. And it's still spoken, while Latin is dead.

10/24/2017, 9:18:13 PM

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Learning any Romance language will help you in learning other Romance languages. This is not the main advantage of Latin in that context.

The main advantages, as I see them, are the following:

1) There has been a thorough understanding of Latin grammar; actually, as far as I know, all the grammar considerations, also for other languages, were initially based on the analysis of Latin grammar. That's why other languages look so "illogical", compared to Latin: If Latin is defined as the paradigm of a logical language, then any deviation from it will appear less logical.

2) There is a huge amount of literature written in Latin -- juridical, theological, scientific. So you can actually read a host of natural Latin texts that provide a deeper (historical) understanding of many subject areas.

This is not true of Corsican.

10/24/2017, 9:50:58 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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Can you please explain why you are against this language?

10/25/2017, 4:47:57 PM

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Sorry, are you asking me? I'm not against the language. Why do you think so?

I just don't support the request for adding Corsican to the Duolingo portfolio because I don't share the reasons given.

If you want to learn Corsican, please go ahead. If Duolingo adds Corsican to the languages to be learned, no problem whatsoever.

I just find the reasons given not convincing, and that's what I tried to explain.

10/25/2017, 4:57:02 PM

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Okay. Sorry.

10/25/2017, 4:58:55 PM

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Also Latin has thousands of years worth of well preserved literature and cultural texts

10/26/2017, 1:43:15 AM

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We need to save the endangered languages!

why?

10/25/2017, 3:35:39 AM

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We need to preserve the culture. Imagine if you were the only one speaking English on Earth, and nobody else understood you, and you couldn't learn another language. You would want others to learn English.

10/25/2017, 3:03:22 PM

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But "preserving the culture" is something that cannot be done by language learners who learn the language in the Duolingo-like style "the frog eats the man" to reach an A2/B1 level in that language. This can only come from inside the language and culture community. Nobody else can do that.

Imagine that I, a German, start learning an African language. I may learn the words, and even the structures of the sentences, but I still don't know anything about the people who use the language. Even if I travel to the place, "immerse", I still don't know what it is like to grow up with the language, to share the anxieties I may have had in that environment as a child, to be consoled by my mum ... All this is totally lost to an outsider, and these aspects cannot be revived from the outside.

On the other hand, culture exists also separate from the language. I guess a German punk has more in common culturally with another punk, let's say from Poland, who doesn't speak German, than with me -- with whom he shares the native language, but who leads a totally different life, driven by different aspirations and values.

Also, I found in West Africa (and this is very encouraging, in my opinion) that there can be a huge culture that is not impeded by any language barriers. For example, in that region of Africa, people speak many languages that are mutually not intelligible. But what they do share, among other things: The rhythms. They may meet and not be able to understand each other fully on the language level, but they all know that a certain rhythm is only played on weddings, for example.

This kind of cultural knowledge and spirit will not be lost even if the people continue giving up their separate languages, and speak English or French instead because these languages may appear more convenient to them because they can be used in many more locations.

Therefore, the reasoning "when a language dies, the culture dies too" is -- fortunately -- not completely true.

10/25/2017, 4:04:02 PM

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well that's an imaginary situation that I couldn't learn a language and others could, that has nothing to with reality

and as Heike333145 noted culture can only be preserved "from the inside"

there is nothing sad about dying languages, that is a natural thing and happened for thousands of years

10/25/2017, 6:20:50 PM

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RIGHT!

10/24/2017, 8:31:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Mindsurges

I recently learned about a new official language spoken by some Hawaiians. It is called Pidgin English. Thought it might be fun to have this language on Duolingo too.

10/24/2017, 9:00:22 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Mindsurges

Like your new picture Woof! :)

10/24/2017, 9:10:54 PM

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Thanks!

10/24/2017, 9:12:03 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/disneygirl55

hi there,

it really seems fun i never new a lot of languages but this would be something i would do!! and even thought people might not know it like Latin it seem fun to me!! but i really want to learn Latin i wish duo would put Latin on this web. that would be so much fun!! my sister loves duo and she also thinks that there should be a Latin to choose to learn... but why don't they have it that is my question????oh yeah Latin is a dead language...................sorry am i talking to my self again thats me!!! anyways back to your post it would be great to have a language that not a lot of people know.....they would think you were going crazy because your talking in a weird language!!!!! =) well what do you think i might be reading your post wrong but i think that you are saying it would be cool if so i just took forever to tell you how i feel about other languages being able to learn on duo......anyway woof can you tell me how you feel about that????

disneygirl55 out

10/25/2017, 12:04:03 AM

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Corsican for French speakers has my support!!

12/22/2017, 8:48:30 PM
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