https://www.duolingo.com/jacquelynadelezz

Fluency level?

I'm not sure why but for some reason my fluency level was rising very quickly when it shouldn't have, it went up a good 6% after just a couple lessons. It seems to have stopped but I was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem?

October 29, 2017

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Zazar_

Yes, I believe it's only there to motivate learners. Thing is, "fluency" is not really measurable! Even if Duolingo will successfully design a, say, working fluency percentage, it'll still be in Duolingo environment, and around what Duolingo can teach.

October 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/riricat13

They fluency level is not the fluency in the language, it is how many words you have mastered on the tree

October 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/CattyRose10

Duolingo's fluency levels is not a good indicator of how fluent you actually are in a language. I have heard Duolingo's fluency levels are dependent upon how often you get answers right versus getting them wrong. Though it is nice to see a high fluency level, don't worry about that percentage and keep working.

October 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TeyaKonanec0

not me... 36 percent and it is very normal

October 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel745677

No worries it happens to me too and it just means that you learned some good words

October 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster

The fluency meter is garbage. Ignore it.

October 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/FreeHelicopters

My guess is the fast early gains are to keep people on the program. People quit more often at the start of longs tasks, once they have some time invested they are more likely to reach the end. Get the hooks in early people will stay.

October 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ellablun

i know, it's supper annoying. sometimes it goes up during the practice rounds, when you aren't learning any new words. and i don't think it's very accurate, as for example, in my german course, there's a tab with words i've mustered so far, and thanks to german grammar, pretty much all words repeat several times, so the number is way over blown. right now it says i know over 900 words of german, when the number is actually closer to 300. however, there is a logic to it. not all words are created equal, like "good" and "bad" and "day" are very common. "presumptuous" is not as common, but it's not exactly rare word either. "petrichor" on the other hand, is extremely rare word, and knowing it, is not gonna help you communicate a lot if you find yourself in the streets of london. so, there's this graph, that shows you how, learning only 200 of the most common words, will get you at the 50% of fluency. 50% is not as much as it may sound, it literally means you'd be understanding every other word native speaker tells you. but it's not gonna be every other word of every sentence, you'd be able to understand basic sentences, and you'd get the gist of more obscure ones, and you won't be able to make anything out if you went to a university lecture on nuclear physics.

the relation unfortunately isn't linear, so learning next 200 words, won't even get you to 60% fluency. as words get less common and more specific, you'd have to learn more of them, to go an extra percent up, so, to reach 80% fluency, you need to learn total of 3000 words. however, with 80% fluency, you can pretty much lead a decent conversation with reasonable person who's not using words such as petrichor.

then again, even when it comes to your native tongue, you don't have a 100% fluency, so there's no need to fret about it. the more you learn, the more you understand, the more you can convey, and that is all you can hope for.

you can see the diagram of this phenomena on this page http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/guide/vocabulary-learning/how-many-words.html

that said, i don't think the % shown on this page is very accurate, cause the words are being miscounted, different forms verbs take after certain pronouns, or cases nouns take, shouldn't be counted as separate words, but as single occurrence of the said word to create a clearer picture. but that's the basic idea behind the % so it's not broken when it grows fast, it just means you are just starting.

October 30, 2017
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