https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

New rings for moderators and... contributors, hosts and teachers ambassadors

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See

So we can now see (by hovering over the avatar) if the user with a green or gold ring is :

  • a Course Contributor (=in the incubator)
  • a Forum Moderator
  • an Event Host
  • a Teacher Ambassador
  • 2 of the four
  • more...

When before, we could only identify the forum moderators.

1. About the "green or gold"

see "What are the Global Ambassador levels?" Support Pages' article

2. Identify who can moderate which forum

When an Forum Moderator is posting on a forum on which (s)he actually has moderation rights, a "MOD" flair appears before his/her language flag:
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Like that we can know who is moderating where.

3. Summary comparison

Before

  • green ring for Forum Moderators on forums where they had moderation rights + "Moderator" displayed when hovering over the avatar

Now

  • ring (green or gold), for any Ambassador, on:
    • all forums + hovering over the avatar gives the list of the kind(s) of Ambassador the user is.
    • profile page + hovering over the avatar gives the list of the kind(s) of Ambassador the user is.
  • For Forum Moderators, they additionally have a "MOD" flair on forums where they actually have moderation rights

EDIT1: I added the text under the images.

EDIT2:

  1. title changed from "New rings for moderators and contributors" to "New rings for moderators and... contributors, hosts and teachers ambassadors"
  2. Added link explaining "green vs. gold".

EDIT3:

Adding of the all the text (and starting at) "Finally, when an Forum Moderator is posting on a forum", and before the list of edits.

EDIT4: Formatting.

11/15/2017, 9:51:37 PM

76 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/DerGoldmann
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Neat-o! Now if only we could get golden rings for our language levels to indicate we conquered the tree.

11/15/2017, 9:56:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MasterZsword

"Gold"? It looked orange to me when I first saw it... Am I the only one? Then again, I have bad eyesight, so...

Anyways, I like the new, updated changes! Not a huge fan of the orange rings (or "gold"... I guess I should take your word for it), but that hardly matters. Thanks for giving us the ability to identify more contributors. They certainly deserve the recognition. ^ ^

11/15/2017, 10:04:07 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Better to take Duo's words than mine. ;)
See the link I added in the OP.

11/15/2017, 10:11:40 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MasterZsword

I GUESS it is gold... When I squint really hard. XD

Also, thanks for the link!

11/15/2017, 10:23:05 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/xMerrie
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Haha, same for me. But I guess that orange is the new gold! (Which would mean that I have golden hair now, yeah!) :D

11/16/2017, 7:03:33 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/tiramisues
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Haha, I thought the same thing, but my eyes aren't the best either, so... ;)

11/15/2017, 10:17:55 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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They are orange-gold but they're called "gold".

11/15/2017, 10:18:27 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/AmareloTiago
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Duo must have liked me since they put a ring on me!

11/16/2017, 2:53:40 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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If you hover over your picture, you will notice the flair appear that identifies you as a
Host

So this is why you are wearing a green ring :)

It is a pleasure to meet you Amarelo :wave:

11/16/2017, 10:41:36 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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Oh, just to mention, for people who want to find more about this,
Check out Introducing Duolingo Events

11/16/2017, 10:43:44 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ
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So here is a question: what's the difference between a Moderator and a Global Ambassador?

11/16/2017, 2:55:27 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Trofaste
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A Moderator is just one type of Global Ambassador. Global Ambassadors also include Contributors, Teacher Ambassadors, and Host Ambassadors.

11/16/2017, 2:59:56 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Or, using Duo's denominations of each category:

  • Forum Moderators
    who moderate forums (at least one), on Duolingo
  • Course Contributors
    who contribute to courses' creation (at least one) in the incubator
  • Event Hosts
    who host events (at least one)
  • Teacher Ambassadors
    who "who grow, lead, and empower academic communities" (quote from here).

P.S.: I'm not sure about

  • why "Global" (and not just "Ambassadors")
  • why "Ambassadors" when it's already part of the name of (only) one of the 4 sub-branches.

I take it as Duo's wording for "Duo Volunteers".

11/16/2017, 3:06:52 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Trofaste
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Your links, other than the help page one, are all www.duolingo.com/comment/URL, so they don't work.

Global because it now shows everywhere, maybe? Or maybe because we're from all parts of the world?

11/16/2017, 3:20:38 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Damn Duo that doesn't recognize its own domains in links. ;)
Corrected. thx for the remark!

11/16/2017, 3:28:30 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Trofaste
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Why would anyone want to recognise their own domains? ;)
De rien !

11/16/2017, 3:37:58 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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And in a different way to explain this, you will see the visual difference between some different Global Ambassador, from the people who have responded here to your question. Everyone with either a Green or Gold ring around them, with the world badge, is a Global Ambassador. Yet as Global Ambassadors (GA), we do different duties.

The official duty performed by a GA is identified by the "flair" that pops up over the bio picture, when you pass your cursor over it.

Along with that, in all the forums, if the person is a moderator for that forum, then there is a grey MOD tag that appears before their language flag. This occurs for whether you are wearing a gold ring or green ring.

So here you will see that Trofaste is not a MOD in this forum.
While Jrikhal and I are MOD's in this forum.
Jrikhal though is a GA who is recognized with a Golden ring, due to the level of activity and very valuable work he has done in at least one of the duties that appears in his "flair".


edited to correct terminology.

11/16/2017, 4:31:17 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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The official duty performed by a GA is identified by the "flair" that pops up over the bio picture, when you pass your cursor over it.

Along with that, in all the forums, if the person is a moderator for that forum, then there is a grey MOD tag that appears before their language flag. This occurs for whether you are wearing a gold ring or green ring.

I thought it was

The official duty performed by a GA is identified by a TAG that pops up over the bio picture, when you pass your cursor over it.

Along with that, in all the forums, if the person is a moderator for that forum, then there is a grey MOD "FLAIR" that appears before their language flag. This occurs for whether you are wearing a gold ring or green ring.

It's just a choice of vocabulary so it doesn't change the idea, but could be better if we all use the same. ;)
Note: I copied the use of "flair" *by Duo in an exchange I had with them and they made the same use recently in the official announcement.

11/16/2017, 4:41:10 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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This is a good idea -of course.
Thank for correcting the terminology. I will leave this here as well - but correct my post above, as I think all that aids with the clarity to the concept we are explaining.

Again, thank you Jrikhal.

11/17/2017, 1:21:18 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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The old ones were better, IMHO.

11/15/2017, 9:53:46 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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I know - change is also difficult.
This new system is also allowing all of us to see more information.

I think it is a cool idea.

11/15/2017, 10:26:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Mindstorms
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Whose the moderator with the awesome Koala picture?

11/15/2017, 9:57:52 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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11/15/2017, 9:59:02 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Mindstorms
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Thanks! By the way, I liked your old picture and username better!

11/15/2017, 11:36:26 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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Which one?

11/16/2017, 9:02:33 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/SmashCookie
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You are some pretty gold looking mods now.

11/16/2017, 2:44:28 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/tiramisues
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Sooo, if I understand it correctly we have to hover over the avatars to distinguish mods/contributors from event hosts and teachers? Am I the only one who thinks they should get their own colour?

Edit: Aah, I see there's "MOD" beside the flags now, that's better!

11/15/2017, 10:17:14 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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The hover matches the ring:

Orange = Moderator

Green = Moderator Contributor (OF the contributing course? Or of any course?)

Blue = Administrator

I think the rings make it pretty clear and straight-forward.

11/15/2017, 10:20:19 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Nope. ;)

color and "kind(s) of Ambassador" are unrelated.

P.S.: Admin/blue are apart.

11/15/2017, 10:28:47 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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Oh, OK. So there can be a green Admin.

But the color should be based on Moderator and Contributor things, plus others, from what I observe.

11/15/2017, 10:34:07 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Oh, OK. So there can be a green Admin.

No, cf. "P.S.: Admin/blue are apart.".
They are in a separate system that makes them blue (and that's all).

But the color should be based on Moderator and Contributor things, plus others, from what I observe.

We don't have access to the "activity level" as an Ambassador to guess anything about what triggers the colour.

11/15/2017, 10:45:20 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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So, what triggers the color?

Have a look to the link, in the OP, to Support Pages: it's explained there and also in another of my answers to you:

color (green/gold) is based on "activity" in your field(s) as an Ambassador.

11/15/2017, 11:09:05 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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So, what triggers the color?

11/15/2017, 10:55:06 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/tiramisues
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From the FAQ I understood it that orange and green is for mods, contributors, event hosts and teachers based on some kind of levels that get re-assesed every year so in theory there could be green mods and orange event hosts or teachers, so you have to look at the "MOD" flare to see if one is a mod, a quick look at the rings is not enough.

11/15/2017, 10:24:06 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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But a MOD is for moderators that moderate in the field or discussion type, right?

11/15/2017, 10:55:53 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/tiramisues
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Yes, but at least at the moment you can only see it inside the discussion not on the topic overview and in my opinion it's harder to distinguish than a ring would be.

I don't mind mods and contributors having the same colour, but I think event hosts and teachers are a different category with different fields than the discussion boards where they are displayed and should have a different colour, so they are recognized but we can still make out moderators (and contributors) in the discussion with a glance. Might just be me though.

11/15/2017, 11:02:09 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Just wanted to poke my head in here and mention to discussion readers that this is the alpha launch of the Global Ambassador program. What that means: It's a rough draft. Over time, like everything else on Duolingo, the details and designs will be revised (multiple times) after Duolingo collects feedback from the general forum community, GAs, and other interactive data. :)

11/19/2017, 4:55:41 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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I was going to create a thread on that, but I guess you beat me to it. Yes, they DO have new rings! It's pretty cool. How do they work?

11/15/2017, 9:56:27 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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They just point out who's a mod/contributor and who's not.

11/15/2017, 9:57:58 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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I posted that before he changed it, ARABIC_IS_COMING. I thought you would be able to make a logical assumption with time.

11/15/2017, 9:59:27 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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I answered right after you asked. I hadn't noticed it was edited. Excuse me for making a minor mistake. Not sure why it's such a big deal though.

11/15/2017, 10:01:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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When did I say it was a big deal? It's just that he edited the picture after I posted it. No big deal.

11/15/2017, 10:05:15 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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I am so glad to see you working things out in such a kind way :)

11/15/2017, 10:27:37 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MasterZsword

I can't tell if your snarkiness was meant for humor or if you were serious when you wrote that last statement.

Or, I could have misread that entirely.

11/15/2017, 10:05:33 PM

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I was wondering how they worked, and then jrikhal added the pop-ups.

11/15/2017, 10:17:20 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MasterZsword

Oh, I was referring to when you said, "I thought you would be able to make a logical assumption with time." It sounded like you were irritated, but then again, I could have misread that statement. But, it's fine! I'm glad your question was clarified!

11/15/2017, 10:20:13 PM

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Oh, I see you edited it. It's pretty cool, but I think green and gold should be flipped from some perspectives. It's pretty cool, though!

11/15/2017, 9:58:50 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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And now the word MOD is back next to those gold ones.

11/15/2017, 10:00:02 PM

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The word "MOD" will appear next to any of them who can moderate in that particular forum. :)

11/15/2017, 10:17:46 PM

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Oh, I see. jrikhal has edited 4 times already; I better start clarifying that my comments are quite old.

11/15/2017, 10:32:54 PM

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I didn't see it before, though.

11/15/2017, 10:18:56 PM

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Shouldn't your ring be green then, if you are both? It's gold.

11/15/2017, 10:00:52 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Nope, ring's color and "what kind(s) of Ambassador the user is" are independent.

  • being at least one of Moderator, Contributor, Host and Teacher Ambassador => a ring
  • color (green/gold) is based on "activity" in your field(s) as an Ambassador.
11/15/2017, 10:34:43 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchByte
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I don't get it. Could you clarify some things?

11/15/2017, 10:54:37 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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I can try, but I'll need to know what part you still don't understand exactly, after having read the entire OP, with its 4 edits made 30-40 min ago, and the content of the link there.

11/15/2017, 11:11:17 PM

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So, the level of contribution and stuff determine Global Ambassador Ring color, and MOD flair is if the moderator can moderate in that particular forum (the discussion category?).

The hover shows what the Ambassador does and stuff, but is unrealted to ring color and displays different information about the Ambassador/user.

11/15/2017, 11:28:17 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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Yes ! By George, I think you've got it!
:D

11/16/2017, 10:50:34 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/DreamOfFlying

This is so cool. especially the ring for contributors. Anyhow, is there a way to be able to tell if someone is a global moderator?

11/15/2017, 11:04:20 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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Not in all cases.

  • GOLD + only moderator displayed when hovering
    => "Global (Forum) Moderator"
  • GREEN OR {GOLD but not moderator not displayed when hovering}
    => Not "Global (Forum) Moderator" (not moderator at all on any forum)
  • GOLD but not only moderator displayed when hovering
    => can't know if the user is:
    • a "Global (Forum) Moderator"
    • or a "(standard) Moderator" but with GOLD-level in (one of) the other(s) Ambassador status (s)he has.
11/15/2017, 11:39:05 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/DreamOfFlying

Ok thanks, I think I got it.

11/16/2017, 2:00:34 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/lindakanga
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Hi there DreamOfFlying,

We now have two different color rings for Ambassadors , whose categories are :

  • a Course Contributor (=in the incubator)
  • a Forum Moderator
  • an Event Host
  • a Teacher Ambassador

to represent activity/contribution level. You start with Green, and for higher levels, you receive a Gold ring.

And to read this article : What are the Global Ambassador levels?

Those that were global moderators - now have a Gold ring and Moderator flair.

However there will also be those with a Gold ring, and also a Moderator flair, and will not be global moderators. That they are moderators in specific forums, who have qualified for the gold ring due to their level of contribution.

Does that answer your query ?


edited : formatting
edited : added description on "Those that were global ..."

11/15/2017, 11:25:43 PM

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However there will also be those with a Gold ring, and also a Moderator flair, and will not be global moderators. That they are moderators in specific forums, who have qualified for the gold ring due to their level of contribuition.

A precision:

"Gold ring, and also a Moderator flair"

  • if they are GOLD and only moderators, then they are Global Moderators
  • if they are GOLD and moderators but also something else, then you can't say:
    • it could be that they qualified for the gold ring due to their level of contribuition as a moderator hence are Global Moderators
    • it could be that they qualified for the gold ring due to their level of contribuition as a Contributor/Host/Teacher Ambassador but not as Moderator hence are NOT Global Moderators
11/15/2017, 11:42:38 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

To be honest, it seems all a bit complicated to remember. I'd just as soon get on with learning my language than learning all this, particularly if it is going to change several times in the near future. As I have read through I have got the idea, but really how important is it? As long as I can see who is a mod in the forum I am on, that is really enough from me. Maybe once it all settles down I'll have another go at sorting it all out!!!

11/23/2017, 8:28:54 PM

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but really how important is it?

Depends on you.

As long as I can see who is a mod in the forum I am on

Note that my above comment (to which you answered wasn't about that point).
Also, the the ring/color is not indicating that.

11/23/2017, 9:27:20 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

I hope I haven't offended you? It really wasn't meant to offend. I think all of you who have rings etc of any colour are so great, and applaud you.

I had read through the whole discussion and added my comment at the next spot in it and it wasn't particularly meant to apply to you directly, but rather like joining in a conversation immediately after the previous person (you). had spoken.

I can see that, for all you wonderful people who keep the site going, and for no tangible reward, at least a ring in recognition is something to receive. I was adding my own perspective to what you and others had said on what seems to me to be over complicated.

When I read in one of the posts that this notation would be changing, and I seem to remember it said or implied it would change several times, my desire to learn this particular new system largely evaporated.

I had previously been curious the first time I saw one of 'my' mods had an orange circle plus a blob instead of a blue circle and a shield. I asked the question in that thread, having searched first for 'orange circle' and found nothing. I should have searched for 'gold ring'. I did not realise and I am not good at finding things by searching.

So when I noticed this thread I read all the way to the end because I had asked the question.

Anyway, this long explanation is by way of an apology in case I have offended. Please feel free to delete what I have written in both of my posts. I know you are free to do this anyway and don't need my permission, but I want you to know I would not be upset or offended if you do.

And thank you so much for all you are doing. You do deserve gold, and more!

11/24/2017, 7:17:40 AM

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I hope I haven't offended you?

Not at all.

I had read through the whole discussion and added my comment at the next spot in it and it wasn't particularly meant to apply to you directly,

I see. In such case (if you don't answer to a particular comment but to the original post), it may be better (from an discussion's organization point of view) to answer in the text box just below the OP. This will place your comment automatically at the bottom of the page (until votes come and provoke a reorganization).

but rather like joining in a conversation immediately after the previous person (you). had spoken.

Note that due to comments' ordering depending on votes, the bottom message is not always (I'd even say rarely) the last one made. For instance, the last one was usagiboy7's one (here) made 5 days ago (from today).
You can determine (more or less) the last one by reading, at the bottom of each comment, how many minutes/hours/days/weeks/... ago each comment has been made. But, as said, the best when you don't answer a particular comment is to "answer" to the OP.


Your comment/remark/question is perfectly legit, no reason to delete it (and it never crossed my mind to do so ;)).
I was just answering it --- the importance of the rings system is really depending and varying for each us in the sense that if we don't care about who is mod/contrib/host/teacher ambassador, it doesn't matter; and it's not a problem nor offensive to don't care about that ;) --- and answering it within the context of your answer being an answer to the comment it was answering to (clicked on "Answer" button of a given comment which explains the wording of the "Note that my [...]" part in my previous answer.
No worries, my answer hasn't been written under "offended" feeling and I wouldn't have any reason to be as I'm not responsible for the new rings system (nor its complexity): if anyone could be offended, it would be staff (but your comment isn't offensive).

11/24/2017, 7:46:03 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Thanks. Glad that this has been clarified. Three points directly related to your reply and/or our open dialogue.

Firstly I think you meant to say ''Reply'' button, not ''Answer button''?

And next, I have frequently found that a post I have made when replying to an OP lands up IMMEDIATELY (shouting, just don't know how to underline) in the middle of a discussion and therefore 'lost'.

for an example please see: https://www.duolingo​.com/comment/428538

I don't imagine I will ever get and answer to my question since it found its way immediately into the middle. Sometimes I just give up on getting an answer.

I don't need a reply to my second point. I may wait a bit and then create a totally new post to get a reply. The only way I know of being more certain of getting a reply is to post directly under a mod, because you mods are normally so good at replying. Thanks again.

11/24/2017, 8:26:47 AM

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Firstly I think you meant to say ''Reply'' button, not ''Answer button''?

Yes, sorry. I'm not under the English interface of Duolingo hence didn't remember the exact name under it.

And next, I have frequently found that a post I have made when replying to an OP lands up IMMEDIATELY (shouting, just don't know how to underline) in the middle of a discussion

Yes, it's normal and due to ordering depending on comments' number of votes.
New comments have zero votes hence any new comment will appear (at the moment they are posted) just above the first answer to the OP with less than (or equal to) -1 votes (and below all the answers to the OP with strictly more than -1 votes.

I don't imagine I will ever get and answer to my question since it found its way immediately into the middle. Sometimes I just give up on getting an answer.

I think you will in the contrary more likely have an answer from people who will, in the future, open the discussion than if it was put at the bottom. Because people reading the discussion (hence from top to bottom) will more likely see your comment if it's before the downvoted ones. If it were after them then you'd have more (bad) luck that people would just close the discussions before reaching your comment/question.
Also, anyone subscribed to the discussion (and who didn't disabled mail notification) will receive a mail notification about your comment: that's, by the way, how I have been aware of each ones of your comments in this current discussion. ;)

The only way I know of being more certain of getting a reply is to post directly under a mod, because you mods are normally so good at replying. Thanks again.

Answering anywhere in a discussion where a MOD as reply will be samely seen (or samely not seen) by the MOD (or by anyone following the discussion) because mail notifications are for "any comments made in a discussion you follow" (nothing specific for answer to one's own comments).
Not that before the redesign of the website, the Bell-notifications would, on the contrary, only alerts you about the answer to your own comments, but this is not anymore the case.

11/24/2017, 9:59:28 AM

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Thanks. I do have mail notification. I don't trust it though as sometimes I think there have been replies I have missed in the past due to not getting the email.

Further, although I do click to follow, the discussions followed come up on my list of discussions followed only fairly randomly it seems.

Thus I save the link to repeatedly check if there is an reply. It did work better before, with proper lists of discussions being followed and both bell and email notifications. I do hope we get that back.

Oh, and I see you highlight something with .... Somewhat better than caps which I have been using as I think some may think I am being rude and shouting. I'll try to remember that trick.

No need to reply, you have been very helpful. Thanks again.

Edit: the stars ... didn't come out on the post for some reason where I was saying that denoting that at is stressed is better with stars than caps.

11/24/2017, 10:19:33 AM

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I don't trust it though as sometimes I think there have been replies I have missed in the past due to not getting the email.

I don't think I ever had a problem, except (since the new design has been released) when I forgot to manually click on "Follow" the discussion: before we were automatically following all the discussions on which we had posted. Nowadays, if we don't manually click on "Follow", then we aren't not following it hence no mail notification.

Further, although I do click to follow, the discussions followed come up on my list of discussions followed only fairly randomly it seems.

Even scrolling down?
This list is order by "date of the last comment (by anyone) on the discussion", AFAIR. So the order will vary (a lot) with time.

11/24/2017, 10:26:11 AM

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What is AFAIR?

(my) abbreviation of As Far As I Remember.

11/24/2017, 8:44:07 PM

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This list is order by "date of the last comment (by anyone) on the discussion", AFAIR. So the order will vary (a lot) with time.

It's always been by date of creation of the discussion for me, not most recent comment. So the order stays the same, but a recently followed discussion could be waaaaay down the list. That happens to me all the time with SDs.

11/24/2017, 3:50:51 PM

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@Trofaste, thx for the correction.
I indeed remembered wrongly, mixing it with another tab.

11/24/2017, 5:55:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Thanks yet again. I have now scrolled down and do find the SDs I am following. I had thought the order would be by the date I posted and followed.

What is AFAIR?

11/24/2017, 8:07:36 PM

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What about the dotted circles around avatars?

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