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Chinese!

Chinese for English speakers has officially been released into Beta. Many thanks to the course contributors and alpha testers!

https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/zh-CN/en/status

November 15, 2017

46 Comments


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    I got in the course! ☆:.。.o(≧▽≦)o.。.:☆


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/testmoogle

    Weird how it launched into beta without any official announcement—neither on the incubator page nor in the discussion forums.

    But it truly has launched into beta! I made a new account and there it is available on the course select screen.

    From the way it launched, it kind of seems like it happened by mistake... ?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Maughanster_

    Yay! Thank you to everyone who participated in the creation of this course!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    "Dian Hua" doesn't actually have to be phone. It can be telephone, too.

    Anyway, I'm not sure if a few alternative meanings are accepted, but try them! And make sure to report mistakes (since I forgot to on one error) !

    Is anyone else really excited? I'd like to quickly finish the tree! And I'm lucky that Mandarin and French are really different, so I won't ever confuse the languages.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Great! What about the Tiny Cards deck?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/S0R0USH

    Complainers, please calm down. I know exactly what you're going through.

    But the course literally graduated out of alpha. It was much worse for me as an alpha tester but still very impressive nonetheless.

    A reminder that Chinese is very context based, so your translation could be correct among lots more ... even in different tenses..... it just hasn't been reported and accepted yet. Please be patient, and report as much as you can.

    I sent several dozens of reports in the advanced parts of the tree, a few dozen has been accepted.

    Study well!

    Hao3 Hao3 Xue2 Xi2!

    好好学习!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Yes! You're correct! I'd like a lot of people to know this. After all, we can't expect too much from the team, can we? Especially since it is still in Beta?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/idkhbtfm

    Still says it's not finished for me... only at 37%


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/idkhbtfm

    that says it's in beta, but i still cant start the course through here


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

    only at 37%

    Don't rely on the automatically computed percentages about "completion" in the incubator.

    FYI, the course's team reported a "70%" completion last week, see here.
    But, which is a percentage closer to completion than 37% but still far.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rockerbox

    Strange, I can get to it online, but not on my phone. Odd, but I'm glad to be able to start learning a few basic words. (Still need to focus more on Japanese and Spanish.)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Osnakezz

    Discussion seems to have gotten deleted.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

    The author seems to have deleted it few minutes ago, indeed.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    There are a few errors in the course, since Mandarin is hard to translate into exact English words.

    However, the course is still amazing! Thank you Duo Staff!

    Unfortunately, my flag isn't showing up, even though I'm at Level 3 (used Test Out to get a bunch of XP. Think of all the lingots I am sacrificing, though...)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JAndrzej

    I can see your flag (lvl 5, 10h since your post).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    It takes a few hours to show up.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MasterZsword

    I've been thinking about giving Chinese a chance, but I need to remain loyal to Korean and Japanese, not to mention Romanian. Duolingo, why do you tempt me, so? ^ ^


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Chinese is amazing! Do it! It's slightly hard to translate, but it wonderfully simple and quite easy to learn! Also, very widely spoken!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Too bad I don't have any confetti to throw. At least I can get some more XP and impress Duo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Oh wait --- if anyone has gotten to Nationality, just let me say this: Duo has finally learned how to be casual!

    He said: "You guys are American."

    Wow, I'm just so impressed, Duo! Perhaps he was too busy being elegant when he was in France (which I was learning before). Cheers!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JAndrzej

    I think that they rather tried to differentiate between "你" and "你们" in that sentence.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Why doesn't French differentiate "tu" and "vous"? After all, they both are "you"; similar case with Chinese.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JAndrzej

    I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in Chinese "你们" cannot be used as a polite form of "你", at least as far as I know. If you want to address someone politely you need to use "您" or add words like mister, lady, etc. ("先生", "女士", "太太") after someone's surname. You may also use someone's function/profession like teacher, manager etc. after the surname or without it.

    Also, I don't speak French, but I think that it may be rude to address unknown people using "tu", so there is definitely a difference between "tu" and "vous" used when addressing someone. It's similar to Russian "ty" and "vy".

    Of course, I may be wrong in both cases.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    You're correct in that vous can also be used as a more formal or polite way, but I think it's pretty funny that Duo is adding "you guys", since 你们 can actually be used for friends and coworkers, and you would probably not say "you guys" to anyone.

    is used, but only to be very formal and usually to people in authority, but I'm sure you would never use "you guys" in any serious situation or with anybody with the same amount of power as you.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Yep. Sorry. Now I see what you meant. I misunderstood your post. My point is that the Duo staff probably tried to indicate that this particular sentence should be translated with "nimen" and since English lacks the distinction between the singular and plural "you", they added that "guys" as a kind of "plural marker". You are right that it sounds funny and "casual". Actually, in this case the Chinese translation should also contain some indication that you know those people you address, something like "朋友们!", because "你们" and "you guys" don't belong to the same rigister, as you implied earlier.

    Hmm, you're right. In Madarin you would add some things, to make it like "you guys" or "you men" (not trying to be rude, but this would be used in training for war; even though there might be women in the army it's still "men" and "man") or whatever.

    And you're right. Although, this wasn't a really big deal; I just thought it was funny how the team decided to use "guys".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JAndrzej

    Yep. Sorry. Now I see what you meant. I misunderstood your post. My point is that the Duo staff probably tried to indicate that this particular sentence should be translated with "nimen" and since English lacks the distinction between the singular and plural "you", they added that "guys" as a kind of "plural marker". You are right that it sounds funny and "casual". Actually, in this case the Chinese translation should also contain some indication that you know those people you address, something like "朋友们!", because "你们" and "you guys" don't belong to the same rigister, as you implied earlier.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    At last Mandarin has arrived... and it's really fun!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Speir_

    An enormous thank you and congratulations to Team Chinese!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rick963024

    I have been working my way through the Chinese course for the past couple of months. I have tried countless times, with countless methods, for over 20 years, to learn this language. With Duolingo, I am completely confident that this will work for me. The only problem is that my connections are with Taiwan, and I need to learn Traditional, as opposed to Simplified. I am using a plug in, which is great to have, but it causes hang-ups and freezing. Frustrating. I would definitely pay any fee asked, if I could just get this program in Traditional Chinese.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/belstar128

    Omg now i really don't know what to pick i'm almost done with the Portugese tree my original plan was to do Russian after that and after that Japanese


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    What do you think you should pick?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/belstar128

    Probably Russian because Chinese and Japanese are still in beta and the Russian writing system is way easier


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Sure, pick that then! But make sure to add Mandarin later! ;D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ThatTheatreNerd

    Oh yeah! I haven't been on Duolingo lately, so I forgot it was coming out this week.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DreamOfFlying

    Awesome! Qq are you an alpha tester? because you are already at level 9.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sebastians.s

    Yes, I was an alpha tester. The course has improved so much over the past few weeks, and I'm really excited for its release.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NeonMoogle

    Wait, what?! :D

    I gotta try it out!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ryannichols7

    been alpha testing it several weeks now and really love it.

    hopefully we get a discussion forum soon...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sebastians.s

    There already is one. Try searching for it?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rachael.cr3

    I was really nervous about starting this course since Chinese has a reputation of being so difficult, but it's surprisingly user-friendly! Really enjoying it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchByte

    Wow, testing out gets me 50 XP (without losing hearts)! This is a great time for me to review Chinese! Go Mandarin Learners!

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