"二〇一三年六月"
Translation:June, 2013
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It's correct to put 〇 as I've seen it in Chinese test papers before and they've existed since ages ago too, making it valid to put, but of course it's better to put 零 compared to 〇, as it seems more completed and formal.
Whichever of these characters is better, problem remains that in this excersize it is not pronounced. Does it mean there is no sound to it?
"O" isn't really a character so it's probably not in the software's database or however it works. So technically is doesn't have a "sound" but when you see it here and read it out loud you say ling (零)
It appears to say "ling" on the female voice for O - once again, the female voice is BETTER and should be the MAIN voice teaching the course.
Please click report so they could fix it. They don''t usually read our comments
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I have had it mark me wrong in the past when I wrote 零. It only wants the circle, which I can't seem to get the Chinese handwriting input on my phone to do. I end up having to copy it and paste it in when writing.
If the exercise had given the English meaning it would have at least been possible to figure it out. I know it's possibly better to let us figure out the meaning through listening to the Chinese, but it would have helped to have pronounced the "ling" in the listening exercise. As it was, I think I translated it as June 213 - probably just as interesting a year! Though that would probably have had to have a "ling" at the beginning (0213)?
Why would it? You should assume that there is something missing and know what that something is... good job, duo lingo!
You can see it often on address plaques in China. I couldn't find an example of one with zeros but you can see how the lane (弄） number on this one is spelled out on the bottom of this sign: https://goo.gl/images/ZRgL19 If the lane number was something like 1020 it would say 一〇二〇弄. It's also commonly used to write out the date, such as on this video game: https://goo.gl/GG2v2P
I believe ancient Chinese writing did use circles; e.g., a circle with a spot in the center developed into the modern, "squared" character 日, for "sun."
I am also curious, how in speech do people differntiate between the years 213 and 2013?
The audio is just broken (at least on the male voice) for the 〇 character. In real speech, "ling" would be pronounced, so you could tell the difference.
In Chinese, they read each digit separately for the year, as in er ling yi san nian （二零一三年）. The problem is that the O character is not Chinese, so the software ignored it and didn't read it. Incidentally, the perfect circle for ling (zero) is commonly used in Chinese.
Don't you just write e. g. 一九九七年 for the year 1997 but read it as "year one thousand ninety-seven" instead of "year one nine nine seven"?
Actually you say it just as it's written; for your example: "Yī jiǔ jiǔ qī nián" rather than "Yī qiān jiǔ bǎi jiǔ shí qī nián" which would be written: 一千九百九十七年
And to answer ArchieCric, 二一三年 "Èr yī sān nián" and 二〇一三年 "Èr líng yī sān nián"
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213 would be spoken as er bai shi san (two hundred ten three) - sorry for not writing proper pinyin.
They seem to have fixed it. At lease on mine I can hear the ling on mine. 2/4/2021
Because there is a bug here, so we need to report it for them to fix it :)
The male audio is just worse in this course, poor cadence, missing sounds, weird pronunciations, in contrast to the usually very good female audio. In this case it's just plain missing the 0/零 sound. And judging by how old these complaints are, it doesn't appear they have the time, resources or inclination to fix any audio issues.
Why do the 2nd to 3rd characters never pick up in the voice prompt: líng, yī and sān, don't pick up
Because O is not exactly a Chinese character. Ling is properly written as 零. I've had luck reading aloud the date 二0一三 as er ZERO yi san! Try it and see. :-)
The female voice is fixed but the male voice still wrong 10/10/2020
yeah same. '2013 June' vs 'June 2013' isn't too much of a difference, right?
Same for me, is there a reason that it doesn't accept it, or is it just an error on their part? If someone has a good explanation, i would love to hear it! Thanks!
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As I can remember, it accepts "2017 December 21st" in another question. But why it doesn't accept "2013 June"?
It isn't the simplified version, it's just an alternative. Simplified and Traditional Chinese both use 零 and 〇.
Yeah. In dates and money stoof (stuff) they use 零. But the normal one, like in https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/〇, we use 〇.
I've never seen zero shown this way before, is it actually more normal than using ling?
零 is the formal, "proper", way of writing it. But informally esp. when you're n a hurry "O" or "0" are used. https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Written_Chinese/Numbers
Shouldn't it accept my answer if I type 零 instead of 〇? It marks 零 as a mistake but it's basically the same thing (plus I don't know how to type 〇 rather than just copy&paste it from somewhere)
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I agree. The system is broken.
Honestly, this type of thing made me just take a multi-month break from duolingo. I hate that the Chinese learning is so broken. Sadly, apparently nothing changed in the months I was gone.
Yes, it's the same. But unless you got a "type what you hear" listening module or "translate from English" you shouldn't need to type "O"; just "June, 2013"
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Yeah, but in the type what you hear, 零 is marked wrong in that sentence. It should be correct.
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Though the translation was my first guess, I didn't hear the sound of the 〇, so didn't include it in my answer
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There is no sound for the second character. I based my correct answer on a previous one (when I left it off) where it was corrected
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Still no audio for zero anywhere and this has been reported a long, long time ago. DuoLingo? Are you really the leader in online language courses?
2 + 0 + 1 + 3 + "year" + 6 + "month"? Are "year" and "month" classifiers here?
Duolingo maintenance , your software is not reading aloud the zero. This should be fixed.
As the one here is correct ( female voice) , it should be like : Èr líng yīsān nián liù yuè . Try good translator and hear it correctly.
2013 june should be an acceptable answer.... Its stupid that you make us write it in the western order
It would certainly be understood , but is not the usual order in English - at least not where I come from. June 2013 is better.
I answered 2013 June. It's little weird but it is written there in this order. Is it wrong???
Chinese goes from largest unit to smallest for dates and addresses. So it's year, month, day and the country, state, city equivalent for Chinese addresses
2019年6月5日 is how to write 05Jun2019 in Chinese; I have heard that 2019年6月5号 is also correct, and that 2019年6月5天 would probably be understood as well. Also, if you prefer to use Chinese characters rather than so-called "Arabic" numerals, you may. In my answer, I substituted "5th June" for the "6th June" you asked for, just so it would be clear to readers which number goes where; "06Jun2019" would be written as 2019年6月6日, etc.
Isn't the character for two supposed to change for numbers greater than the hundreds?
We tap what we hear, but the zero isn't pronounced; it is not said, so how can we know where to put it? I think 2103 is as valid a translation as 2013.
I'm happy that they've fixed the sound issue, but now it looks like 零 is not accepted in place of 〇... which is a problem since I can't actually type in 〇 using my keyboard, only 零.
Surely if the translation is June, 2013 the answer should be accepted that way.
That's not a natural way to write that date in American English. It shouldn't matter, but Duolingo usually tries to adhere to grammar rules in both languages.
It is true, my language is Spanish and I always end up making mistakes for responding badly in English!!
二零一三年六月 was marked wrong. I reported it because it seems like it should be accepted.
So when would one use 〇 vs 0 vs 零? I see Chinese use all of them? But not sure if there's a general rule or when it's more common to use each of those.
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I wrote 零 but that was rejected, saying I shoudl have written the circle instead. Im using this on my laptop and the circle doenst show up when I type ling.
i got it right but your message say it's wrong that is why I am no confidence in your stupid classes
I used "零" instead of “〇” and got the question wrong, however to my knowledge they have the same tones and mean the same thing. Is there a difference in how I should use them?
They both mean "zero" but 〇 is used when writing years. https://www.duolingo.com/skill/zs/Time-1/tips
every time i feel like i should give duolingo a try again, i run into one of these utterly obnoxious lessons where every answer is so janky
How can we guess the correct answer when the doeaker diesnt say a Character? I wrote 二一三年六月...because that's what he said...how should I guess they want a 〇 in there if the speaker doesn't say the word?
〇 is typically used instead of 零 when writing the year. Both are pronounced líng and both mean "zero" but the conventions around them are different. https://www.duolingo.com/skill/zs/Time-1/tips
不客气！I need to remember to read them more, myself. I usually only check them when I'm having trouble with something but it's often helpful to start the lesson by reading the tips.
There might be something to that. My Chinese friend joked that 〇 is used when you can't remember how to write 零。
〇 is typically used instead of 零 when writing the year. Both are pronounced líng and both mean "zero" but the conventions around them are different. https://www.duolingo.com/skill/zs/Time-1/tips
It should accept either of these three:
二零一三年六月
二〇一三年六月
2013年6月
The one with the 零 is not accepted at the moment, although it should be.
The voice did not use the word ling in th year He said "er yi san nian liu yue. ???
As of June 2, 2020, the female voice says líng correctly, but not the male voice.
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Is ling (O) silent? I did not include because i did not hear it pronounced..got wrong
Yes, but that's a problem with the software. In real life it would be pronounced.
THERE IS NO "〇" plus, when I was practicing this with timed practice when I was reporting it, it did not pause. Yet another discussion about a Duolingo problem that EVERYONE agrees on. I totally agree with everyone too, Andvari4, KeZhiXin1987, JHlearns, Potato132462, and I definitely agree with JesperWarn. I did a children's (kindergarten level, supposedly) Chinese workbook the other day, yesterday, and it used 零 for dates. Duo can do better.
My Chinese friend says 零 can be used for dates and doesn't know why Duolingo doesn't allow it, but that both 零 and 〇 are valid and used in by Chinese people in this context.
Este es un error de software. Se pronuncia "líng". 〇 = 零 = cero
People have been complaining about this for years, but Duolingo doesn't seem to care.
That's not a natural way to write that date in American English. It shouldn't matter, but Duolingo usually tries to adhere to grammar rules in both languages.
"2013 June" is also correct, especially in countries where the date is officially/properly written as year-month-day. (eg Canada)
二零一三年六月 isn't accepted? Isn't 零 and 〇 the exact same thing at the exception that 零 is just much more complicated to write down..?
Apparently, for this one, and the other ones that are broken with the speech recognition with 〇 in it, you need to say it without 〇 and it will accept it.
It really should accept 零 and on mobile it does, but on desktop it does not. In addition, the Chinese keyboards I have don't have the circular character.
You didn't ask me to translate, you asked me to tap what I heard and I did. What do you want from me?!
Don't like how 2013 june is wrong dispite that being how it is written on Callanders in my country
What the hell with the ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ absolutely non Sino-"0" character? Have you been bingeing on that shit "dubious" channel China Uncensored?
Welcome to the 8th Century. Actually, 〇 was already used in written Chinese before the 8th Century, but gained much more popularity during and following the reign of Empress Wu (武則天 Wu3 Ze2 Tian1) during the Zhou Dynasty (16Oct690 - 22Feb705). No one was "binging on any channels" back then.
I have no idea what the hell is going on with this one. Somebody must've sneezed on the key board