Long Streaks = Discipline, Habit, or Passion?
I've finally gotten my streak to get pass 100 days. For many people that's nothing, but I've been through countless 30 or 50 day streaks and always managed to ruin it unintentionally. Big projects due, getting sick, mistakenly thinking I had done my Duo that day... I had every intention to keep the streak going but often accidentally "missed it".
I know that quantity doesn't mean much, it's the quality that counts. But I think those who maintained their streaks above 200 days deserve a standing ovation. And there are those who have gone beyond 1500... I'd like to know where you get your discipline, strength, dedication... whatever you call it, or simply a habit.
How did you establish a routine or even the passion for keeping it going for so long NONSTOP?
Duo has given us various incentives to keep practicing which is the key to learning. The streak is just one of them and if you set your coach very low you can do it in a few minutes the wish is that once you log on you won't stop at maintaining your streak but go on to some other lessons.
A combination of enjoyment and habit. However from time to time life happens and my streak is lost. This is not the end of my learning just the start of my new streak.
I am a big fan of the idea of doing a bit everyday and learning slowly; letting the language settle into my long term memory
"This is not the end of my learning just the start of my new streak." How beautifully put!! Someone should frame this, and you should copyright it!
BTW, your avatar is one of the cutest I've ever seen!
When I started out, Duolingo was so new and fun that it was really really easy to get a lot of xp in one sitting, just because I enjoyed it so much. I also happened to have a lot of time on my hands, so that helped a lot too. After a while, I got a lot more busy and the novelty wore off, but by that point I had already gotten a streak of a little over a month, so even if I was busy or felt bored, I'd still keep my streak going for the sake of keeping it going.
Now I have a streak of 490. The streak freeze has certainly been a saving grace here. The app also makes it easy to keep my streak up, as I can do Duolingo when I'm on the go and get my progress very quickly. I've gotten through many a waiting room with the Duolingo app.
So I guess I would say my streak is a combination of habit, passion, and desire to see my streak grow even more.
I'm sure lots of people's "novelty wore off" when they "got a lot busier" as you mentioned, and that's certainly how my streak was "reset" to zero so many times. But very few people were able to "still keep my streak going for the sake of keeping it going" like you did, that's quite amazing!
Thank you sharing your valuable experience; my hats off to your high scores & long streak!
Habit, I make sure I do it every day before I go to bed and I always have a streak freeze ready and waiting. It's a bit like going to the gym, if you do it every day it becomes a habit and you feel like your day isn't complete unless you do it! The only way to keep things in my memory is to do a little each day. I have managed to keep it going when overseas on long trips and when camping. It wouldn't kill me to lose it, but I just haven't lost it yet!
Motivation: to keep a language from getting rusty – so it needs upkeep.
Habit: Expecting it of myself.
Duo's design: the rewards center in my brain wants to hear the little "ding", see skills become golden, see the streak number continue.
All three are factors.
PS. I have my daily goal set to 1 XP.
Let me start with that I love your profile statement: Learning a language is an exercise in both boldness and humility. You have such deep understanding of what languages mean to the mankind.
Thank you so much for reminding me that the purpose and meaning behind the streaks is "to keep a language from getting rusty – so it needs upkeep"! That means, if I ever lose the streak again, I should thank Duo for letting me know that my study is getting rusty, and I should get back on track asap.
Thank you very much again, and my hats off to your long streak!
Over the last 1200 days, I have had my share of days that were discipline, habit and passion.
Most days I fall into the habit category but there have been days that the only reason I studied was to keep my streak going.
I'm simply speechless looking at your profile.... How do you keep up with so many (20!!!) languages at the same time? I'm having trouble keeping up with just a few. You have my utmost admiration!
My streak isn't so big, but I think you have to set small measurable goals if you're not sure of how much time you've got. It's quite easy to earn 10 XP a day. Also, it's a good idea to have a streak freeze, just in case. And, of course, join a club, in which case you'll often receive reminders that someone passed you in leaderboards, and you'll have some competition to motivate you.
Your streak may not be big for you, it certainly counts for a major achievement for me. We all know how hard it is to keep something (anything) going for weeks, let along months!
I'll check out the streak freeze, but also thank you so much for the suggestion of joining a club. That certainly will bring some stimulation!
Oh NO!! It really hurts to read it.... I don't mean for you to dig out the painful memory, but if you're willing... ... (gulp)... WHAT HAPPENED???!!!!
self discipline is a wonderful thing....and is part of this process...learning is a wonderful thing too...both very motivating for me...
Self discipline is truly a wonderful thing!!! We all know how hard that is, and how much respect one deserves when he/she has that special quality. I've been working on it all my life and it still needs LOTS of work. (Well, I wouldn't be making this post if I had your kind of discipline- My hats off to your long streak and great self discipline!)
Enjoying it is the key. If you are forced to do it, it isn’t so much fun so you don’t have the desire to keep up a streak. But hard work is also important along with habit and everything else like that(sorry for being vague).
You totally have a point. Hard work is the fundamental for everything, but some enjoyment would keep the hard work last longer. Thank you for sharing!
That is one shockingly amazing profile! Even B. Franklin would be impressed by your energy and persistence. Great advice from you, thank you so much!!
For me it starts with a fundamental passion about expanding my language skills for travel and enjoyment of the arts...but I have to admit that my longevity is also reflective of my own obsessive compulsive personality traits.. The way that Duo has been skillfully designed....with the daily reminders, the leaderboards, the graphs and the little "bells and whistles"...can become addictive after a while...perhaps even a bit too much.
You might have mistaken your "dedication and devotion" with "obsessive compulsive personality traits". The accomplishments listed on your profile takes a great deal of admirable hard work. I love "bells and whistles" too, but I don't have your discipline to keep them ringing. My hats off to you! (Btw, what are your favorite operas?)
Throughout my life, I've had a hard time sticking with activities long term. I would start things and then get distracted by something else and lose track of the other thing. Once I discovered there was such a thing as a streak on Duolingo, I could track the number of days I'd signed in.
Watching the numbers go up meant a lot to me, because it was the number of days I'd kept coming back. Even if some days when I felt burnt out I only got one XP, it still meant I hadn't wandered off and forgotten about Duolingo.
I finally lost that streak just shy of 1,000 days when I'd gotten really sick and lost track of the days. After that, I stopped studying for about a year, but stuck around to help out with moderator stuff. I'm back to studying studying again and I've lost several 30-50+ day streaks. I feel more comfortable about it though, because I don't see myself just wandering off and forgetting about Duolingo. By now, it kinda feels like it's in my DNA haha. :)
I picked up some great tips for maintaining a streak when I found myself with a really long one. I put them all in the discussions Checked your streak freeze today?. (It's about more than just getting a streak freeze, btw. It's about understanding what exactly constitutes "missing a day", so people don't fall into some common misunderstandings that can result in lost streaks.)
It breaks my heart to read that you lost close to 1000 days of streak!! But your post showed that the streaks has a much more profound meaning to you than simply number or count of days now that it becomes part of your DNA; and that's the purpose or streaks and scores- for us to keep going until it becomes part of us.
Thank you so much for sharing your valuable experience (and please try not to get sick again....)!
Regarding the DNA, less the streak than the Community. This place is really something special. The streak just kept bringing me back while I was falling in love with this online community that now feels very much like home. :)
Also, thanks! I do my best not to.
I really enjoy learning Swedish on Duolingo so that motivates me to keep my streak because I love the language I'm learning. P.S I also have a 10xp goal so if I don't have much time I don't have to do lots to maintain my streak
You brought up the important part of learning- enjoy. Learning will lose some enjoyment at some point, however long/short that may be. It's important for us to hang in there and get through the tough part, then get into more enjoyment later. As for goals, I used to set it at 1xp, but still managed to miss a few times, inexcusable!
I see our streak is very close and hope we'll both make it to 1000 and beyond.
I had a streak of over 800 days as of May 20th. Eventually it just became habit!
Your impressive profile shows that you have a very noble and extraordinary "habit"!!
Ennui. And habit, though I no longer have passion since immersion was deleted and do the absolute minimum to keep up the streak.
I never knew the existence of "immersion". We should make a suggestion to Duo if this makes such a big difference to you. Are you using other materials right now to sustain that passion you used to have?
That is soooo cool! I wish I could have a streak like that. But I'm really happy for you! Keep up the not good but GREAT work! Here's a lingot for your hard work. Hope you don't mind that I'm following you.
Thank you for the enthusiasm! Duo makes good programs, and the Duo users are great inspiration!
Through Duo, I didn't just learn the languages, but also am motivated, inspired, and so very positively affected!
Duo brings together the wonderful people of the world. What an amazing community we have right here!!
I'm actually really new to duolingo and I feel like the streak isn't as important as actually learning the material (maybe I'm missing something, though?) You can keep a streak really easily just by setting a super low goal (10 xp or 1xp) and doing a very easy session (like basics 1 or something) while eating breakfast or lunch or doing anything else that doesn't require you to be focused, really. And besides, if you can get lingots, you can buy as many streak freezes as you feel you may need if you're going to have a busy week.. But you wouldn't actually be learning anything, just keeping your streak, imo that's a bit pointless.
even just a few lessons per day multiplied by a 500 to 1000 day streak is a lot of lessons though
Amen! Duo has helped me achieve something I didn't think was possible, little by little.
Welcome to Duo! You may be new to Duo, but your post shows that you know much more than I do!
Streaks mean different things to different people in different levels. One thing I know is that it had kept many people on track and encouraged/challenged them to keep going. So, although streak isn't so important, its meaning (and influence) is grand.
I have never used streak freeze and don't know how it works. But I know it symbolizes a second chance for those who missed a day after working so hard for so long (especially those who are in the 4 digits). They deserve (and earned) that "forgiveness".
Thank you so much for your valuable input!
All of the above; some more so than the others at different times. First you start with the passion, then with that passion build a habit/discipline. Once your streak gets kind of high, it becomes more valuable to you and gives you a stronger desire to keep it going.
Learning another language is very good for your mind; it will improve your ability to remember any kind of information, open up a new world to you that was previously blocked by a language barrier, help you better understand the world and other cultures, and even help you understand your own native language.
Some tips to make it easier:
1. Do your lessons at the same time each day
2. Always keep a streak freeze equipped
3. Load a different tab (forums, lingot shop, etc.) each time after finishing your lessons to make sure you connect to the server and sync your last few minutes of progress before leaving the site
4. Try to get on the Streak Hall of Fame
Everything you said is very true with great depth! Languages do open up so many doors to our life which also reflect ourselves in so many ways that we never knew.
"Do your lessons at the same time each day" indeed works for so many things- Practicing an instrument, exercise, anything we need to do/accomplish.
I'll check out streak freeze and streak hall of fame. Thank you so much for your tips and valuable insight!
As you can see my streak is not long at all compared to some streaks of 2000!!
But your streak also shows that you've gone more than a month nonstop, which is still admirable!
The streak count is like a measuring tool for showing me how long I've been practicing my German skills, although I have used several Streak freezes. But for me it is 90% precise.
You are very right about looking at the streak as a measuring tool to show how long we've practiced the language! You have very admirable score and streak; I hope to get as far as you do... really!
I would say it is a bit of the three, in my case with an excellent amount of stubbornness and the excellent satisfaction that it gives when that little number goes up every day. And also the satisfaction because LANGUAGES. EVERY DAY. (Yes I am slightly obsessed XD)
One big reason I keep the streak longer this time is you. You and Elin.7-1 are my very first Duo buddies, and since I have practice buddies (the two of you), I'll have to "honor the friendship" and be worthwhile. So I "behaved" and practiced everyday all this time. Also, I wanna still be around when you find your dragon!!
Thank you so much again for the motivation!
The thing that has kept me going so far is the knowledge that I am a part of some sort of elite group, and that I would be giving this pseudo-membership up if I stopped at any time. Not only I am not as passionate about learning languages as I was before, I also think that Duolingo could do a lot better, and have even been meaning to start my own language learning service.
You're right about this group of enthusiastic language elites (and your profile shows that you're at the the peak among us)! I always think Duo should be considered a Nobel Peace prize for bringing the world a unique energy that's very positive and powerful!
Thank you for your wonderful perspective, and I look forward to your very own language course!
I try to do it about the same time every day. However, even with that I've never managed more than a 27 day streak, so my 2nd rule is, don't get discouraged over streak breaks. Life happens, and streaks will break, so if I'm busy/sick/lose track one day, I just continue with the lessons the next.
What you said is so very very true!! Indeed life happens and will always happen; so when the streak breaks, the only thing we should do is to keep going. Thank you so much for this wake up call!
When I first started, Duo was very new. All they had was Spanish, which I began learning. I switched to French as soon as they introduced it, a language I started in middle school from a truly wonderful and passionate French-born teacher. Whenever I lack motivation, I often think of my former French teacher, smile, and renew a lesson in Duolingo. I am also a member of a group of French-speakers that meet once a week to speak French for an hour; the group has been very important to my continued French studies. I always maintain a streak freeze, and keep my daily goal at 10. As I began re-learning French with DuoLingo (forty years later), Duo's immersion feature was a major motivator to learn; translating articles that interested me, earning lingots in the process, and interacting with other learners/translators with the same articles. Although I miss that feature very much, I have gathered many other online resources (often suggested by other Duo learners, and enjoy listening to French popular music which helps me study grammar and vocabulary I've encountered in Duo. I recently started learning Spanish on Duo's re-tooled Spanish tree, and I encountered the same wonder and curiosity about Spanish that I first found when I started French; I am especially enjoying the Spanish stories that offered by Duo. Best wishes, cd52 !
Thank you so much, prky!! Your comment came at a perfect timing-- I recently had to quit Duo temporarily for a unique reason. I'm going through a job application which involves public speaking skill. It's my dream job, and I'm at the very last stage of the hiring process. I notice myself speaking poorly whenever I try to practice multiple languages simultaneously. (English isn't my mother tongue.) So I stopped Duo for a week to make sure I could speak well and fluently at the interview. Now it's over, I was debating whether I'll pick up Duo right away or take a rest. Your message inspired me to start now, and reminded me that there is an amazing community here at Duo which is filled with great friends like you who motivate and help others. Thank you so much again, prky!!!
I encourage you to make a discussion post about that. Sounds like something the wider community would be interested to read and share their own experiences on. :)
Thank you very much, Usagiboy7! I will, when I can sort out my experiences and find a way to make sense in writing. You're right, I bet there are people in the community who'd be able to solve my problem with their magical solutions. Thank you very much again!