https://www.duolingo.com/hiprofrye

GEORGIAN LANGUAGE

the Caucasian language of Georgian/ქართული(k'art'uli) is a language we should learn. please let it come soon

November 19, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster
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გამარჯობა Gamarjoba! I would also love a Georgian course on here. However, if you want to support a Georgian course, you must upvote this thread.

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Jan-ErikJ
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How is it possible that the thread only have 10 upvotes?!

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster
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I have no idea either. Maybe those who want Georgian don't know of this thread???

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Simon104416

would you know the link for Armenian?

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster
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Armenian thread can be found here. More language threads can be found here.

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Tamuna10
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It depends on multiple things. I'm trying my best to let it happen ^^ Thanks for your support!

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Koezumi
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It is a language that always fascinated me by its unique writing system, and one of the rare languages that I know existence which has an ergative case (I know that Basque and Hindi have one). So I definitely think it is an interesting language to learn. I hope that Duolingo will make it possible.

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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More languages have an ergative/absolutive alignment in some manner or other than do not; it is not that this state of affairs is uncommon, but rather that Europe is an atypical ergative desert compared with the rest of the world.

November 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/OmegaGmaster
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Circassian and Kurdish also have Ergative case, if you're interested in that.

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/knudvaneeden
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https://www.duolingo.com/Hermesianax
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Not to be disrespectful, but there are many, many languages that haven't yet been added to Duolingo. Why should Georgian have priority, in your view? What are reasons for people to learn it? I think trying to persuade and give good arguments might help more than simply asking for a particular language.

November 19, 2017

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If Klingon and High Valyrian can make it here, Georgian definitely can make it here.

November 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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That wasn't the question. Sure, Georgian can make it here but so can a couple thousand other languages. Why should it make it here before the others? If you make that case, you're much more likely to have your course soon-ish.

November 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Tamuna10
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They have a Georgian mod already in, who is there for over 2 years and already well acquainted with the system. :/ At least to add up English for Georgian speakers would be nice, as a lot of Georgians need to know English and don't know it.

I understand Duolingo adds languages that are demanded by multiple users, but Georgian could be the first Caucasian language they added (as they already have a lot of Indo-European, Semitic, and some Sino-Tibetan and Japanic, as well as African languages). Instead of asking why yes, why not to ask why not? ^^

Tho I understand that there aren't Finnish, Icelandic and Farsi yet, which I really want to be there. So yeah, both arguments of why to add Georgian and why not to add make sense.

November 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Hermesianax
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That doesn't add up, in my view. Duolingo's audience consists largely of American and European users, among which many fans of Game of Thrones and Star Trek. Minor languages like Welsh and Irish, on the other hand, are courses because British and Irish culture is popular, not unsurprisingly so, as many Americans claim their roots to the British isles. Georgian, on the other hand, is a language like many, to put it bluntly, and the fact that it isn't written in the Latin alphabet - or any other script already used in a Duolingo course - doesn't help, I think. I have no ill feeling towards the country and its language, I simply do not know a lot about it, which is the reason why I genuinely want to know why hiprofrye wants it added.

But I suppose that most people find it easier to simply downvote my remark and ignore it, instead of actually going into a conversation with me.

November 19, 2017

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Georgia is increasing positioning itself as a nation that looks to the West rather than to Russia, so both cultural and economic interest in the nation and the language are only likely to increase amongst Europeans and Americans as time goes by.

Georgian is certainly not 'a language like many'; to put it bluntly, it is a language like virtually no other (Mingrelian, Laz and Svan are the only extant languages in the world related to it, and the latter two only have a few thousand speakers each).
The Georgian scripts are extremely phonetic and straightforward, which is particularly remarkable given the antiquity of the language (it is amongst the oldest continuously-spoken languages in existence).
If Duolingo's mission is really about education rather than simply trivia, it is not at all unreasonable to expect it to give priority to such a language of vast historic and cultrual worth over frivolous conlangs invented for television franchises that no-one actually uses for communication.

November 20, 2017

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Thank you Garpike, for your thoughtful and elaborate answer. I think the fact that no other Caucasian language course exists on Duolingo is a good case for Georgian, just like the antiquity of the language -although to be fair, this would be a good argument for languages like Farsi, Armenian and Latin as well.

I'm not a great fan either of the existence of three conlang courses - apparently it's no problem that there are no native speakers in it, so why is Latin not a thing yet on Duolingo? - but we also have to admit that these courses come to be because of a large group of people who are passionate about them, even though we all know them to be fictitious languages.

And I agree with Tamuna that the least thing would be an English-from-Georgian course.

November 20, 2017

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I think the fictional languages come about largely due to DL wanting to get publicity and news coverage by piggybacking on popular franchises. There was never a huge demand for them.

I completely agree that all the languages you mention deserve a DL course, particularly Latin and Persian, which are both major languages of literature and culture that have influenced the world immeasurably.
However, I do appreciate that DL cannot do everything at once. An EN-from-KA course does seem a more likely starting point than the reverse, as there is a considerably greater demand for it, and it would expand DL's reach into Georgia. If one looks for named place-holder pages in the incubator, all of these seem possible.

November 21, 2017
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