"希望你们都能来我的派对。"
Translation:Hope you can all come to my party.
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"can" in this situation would probably be a better translation than "could"
"you all can" sounds more natural to me. Furthermore, "all" is not supposed to be mandatory. I tried to use "you guys" and it was deemed wrong by the app
You'd be right if it were "ta men", but the added "dou" makes it more like "all of you", which does need to be specified
你们 (ni men) is plural you, so "you", "you guys", "y'all", "you all", are all fine even if they haven't been added to the system for this one yet. And like you say the added "dou" makes it inclusive so maybe "all y'all" (all of you all) which is said in some regions.
If you're a speaker with “you all” as a pronoun, the translation here would be “all you all can”—but this is sufficiently nonstandard that I don't blame Duolingo if it doesn't recognise it .
I’d really like an answer to this one too!
I’d love to know if 希望 can be used to mean “hopefully” as well as “I hope”. And if not, why not?
Hopefully you can all come to my party.
Wouldn't in English "you can all come" be better than "you all can come"? "You all" or "y'all" sounds very colloquial/informal.
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Im British and we would never say "you all/y'all", its an Americanism. We would always say "hope you can all come to my party"
Not sure about better, I would interpret the meaning slightly differently.
It’s fine. Please do report it as a correct solution!
“I hope that all of you can come to my party.”
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"Hope that you can all come to my party" is not correct for colloquial English. "I hope that you can all come to my party" is a correct translation. The sentence needs to have a subject.
The recommended translation lacks a subject and is ungrammatical in English. It should be “I hope you can all come to my party”.
Maybe, but everyone is different than plural "you". So I think "all of you" or "you guys" is better.
"I hope you all come to my party." is perfectly fine, too, and should be accepted.
The subjunctive is in its waning phase in modern English, but it isn't dead yet! ;)
Despite duo's definition (will, could, can) 能 conveys more the meaning of "ability". http://dictionary.reverso.net/chinese-english/%E8%83%BD So I think Duo is correct in being "picky" here, that way that we learn this distinction and don't say one thing when we really mean to something else :)
The dictionary hints for 希望 say "Hope" or "Wish" But, every time I say, "I wish you all could come to my party" I am told it is wrong....
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Yes, it's wrong. In English "hope" implies something which is possible and perhaps likely. I've invited my friends; I hope all of them will come. "Wish" implies something that is highly unlikely or impossible, almost magical. If I said "I wish you could come to my party" it would suggest everyone had already refused, or perhaps my friends are dead or in prison or on the other side of the world. 希望 may express both of these ideas but in English they are distinct.
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Thanks for your informative comment; I didn't know the difference between "wish" and "hope".
Is there a rule to the order of words? In an earlier exercise it was 我能跟我朋友一起... I would have expected 都 to come after 能 here.
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This is a completely different sentence construction, in which 都 does not occur, because 一起 (= together) is used. I learned from my teacher:
1) 都 does not come after a verb, but after the plural of persons, and that even only as an emphasis; without 都 the meaning is also already the plural of those particular persons.
2) The Chinese themselves often use 都, even if it's not really necessary (in the eyes and ears of foreigners).
"hopefully you can all come to my party." is marked incorrect. i want to check here before i report that my answer should be marked correct.
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That's fine. "Hopefully" seems even better to me, because the subject "I" is not mentioned here. But Duo seems to do the same as Google here: if you type "hopefully" the translation is 希望, but if you type 希望, it is "hope". [I believe that the Chinese leave out the subject sometimes, but for the translation into English I find "hopefully" the best solution here.].
Thank you so much! I'd translated 希望 as "hopefully" for other questions and it got accepted, just not on this one lol
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I didn't know that Duo "hopefully" accepts in other sentences, so I'm glad my vision turns out to be correct. I had temporarily quit the Chinese lessons from Duo for a while, but at least I now know that I will soon be able to use this word in other sentences: thank you!