https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

We're looking for applicants!

Feel free to apply if you are confident and passionate about teaching Korean to the world.

Requirements

  • Excellent command of Korean and English

  • 18 years old and above.

  • Can contribute about an hour a day.

November 27, 2017

16 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

Seodori, my command of Korean does not rise to "excellent", but I do have ideas to help improve the course that I think might be useful. I went through the course when it first became available on desk top, and made some comments https://www.duolingo.com/comment/24887752 relative to the hangul section.

I am now working my way through again, though much more slowly because of the hangul typing now required, and since I have stepped up my supplementary studies, and try to spend some time each day participating in discussions.

I commend the team for your efforts, especially in view of the fact the course was probably not the prime focus of your lives. I can imagine the challenge in trying to coordinate the efforts of several volunteers separated by thousands of miles, and I am pleased to see the changes that have taken place in the short time since the course went into Beta as the course continues to take shape.

I am sure you have read many of the discussions, and so are aware of some of the frustrations of the course. Most frustrating to me is that the flagged reports don't provide for written comments. Second is probably the inconsistency, (an answer accepted previously not being allowed) but I suspect that may be because separate members took charge of the final "proofing" before rolling the course out.

My suggestion for all DL courses is to add more context so as to narrow interpretation, but this is especially true for Korean in dealing with 이 / 가 vs 은 / 는. If a scenario were established at the beginning of each unit, it would make the whole translation experience more meaningful and would also facilitate memorization, as we remember better when relating to situations that "tie together." To narrow the choice of endings due to politeness levels, you might at least have a note at the beginning of a unit to the effect, "the following sentences are from conversations with strangers, superiors, or elders." "The following sentences are from conversations with friends" etc.

Your notes are great, but they might be placed more strategically, so that they are "in the face" of the student before starting the first exercise of the section to which the notes apply.

Also, though I am sure all the developers have an "excellent command" of English, it appears from some of the translations that for some it is not their first or even second language. It might be helpful if we could actually make written suggestions in the reports when a translation to English is strange or ungrammatical.

Going through the course the seond time I have been offering many alternative translations, both into Korean and into English, which I will continue to do, though it would be much more effiicient if I had a "script" of the whole course. Let me know if I can help, and thanks for all your efforts.

November 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/PERCE_NEIGE

Do you have some ideas to make this course more beginner-friendly? It's a nightmare if one has only Duolingo to learn, because too many info at the same time. The first thing I would ask, please, please, do it, put an IPA translation, because the romanization is not a good tool for some of us.

November 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/studying.veggie

There is this really awesome app called Lingodeer for learning Korean, Japanese, and Chinese. It has a really nice set up and it is super beginner friendly. It is free and you can even do it offline. It has helped me a lot and made doing Korean on Duolingo much easier.

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

I am sure you have read many of the discussions, and so are aware of some of the frustrations of the course. Most frustrating to me is that the flagged reports don't provide for written comments. Second is probably the inconsistency, (an answer accepted previously not being allowed) but I suspect that may be because separate members took charge of the final "proofing" before rolling the course out.

Unfortunately, we have to review every single sentence one by one individually. As a result, correcting sentences can be extremely time consuming. Thank you for your understanding.

Your notes are great, but they might be placed more strategically, so that they are "in the face" of the student before starting the first exercise of the section to which the notes apply.

Unfortunately, this is out of our control.

November 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

I realize you have a foremat you currently have to work with, but it might be a suggestion that could be passed on to management. Maybe the philosophy is "let them struggle to figure things out before we disclose too many clues" but my guess is you have lost many potential students from the start, who give up before they ever get down to the notes. If the notes were the first thing that came into view, I think it would be extremely helpful for beginners.

It is interesting how erratic the reponses are to flags. There is one question 야채 that has no clue--no sound. It has been like that since the beginning, and several have commented in the discussion. Other suggestions I have made have been handled the next day, though that is rare.

As I mentioned before, course consistency is most frustrating.. If the desired ending is to be "어요" rather than "ㅂ니다" there needs to be some kind of a hint. Also, with regard to 이/가 or 은/는 there is inconsisency within the same set of questions. "The crying baby is cute." and

"The sleeping baby is boring."

should be expressed with the same particle for the purpose of this course, though in real life, there are situations where one would be more appropriate over the other.

And, as mentioned before, it would be nice if there were a more appropriate way to direct comments to the team such as the one just made.

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/sartikasarri

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November 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/PERCE_NEIGE

Hi. And thank you for your Korean course!

I've been trying a lot of courses on Duolingo, some are easier than ofther, but the Korean course is really not beginner-friendly, it's the hardest for a beginner among all the courses I've attended on Duolingo...

I know it's a β course, so I hope to send you a feedback about this course. Is it possible? The pedagogy of the course should be a bit rethought in my opinion.

November 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/LiKenun

I’ll add that I would not have been complete this course without a trove of prior knowledge. Much of what I knew before participating in this course pertain to phonology, hanja, and the Korean alphabet. To a beginner who has none of these, the course would present a steep uphill climb. I think what has made it much easier for me is prior knowledge of the writing system and phonology (in that order).

November 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

but the Korean course is really not beginner-friendly, it's the hardest for a beginner among all the courses I've attended on Duolingo

That's certainly a concern! We are working on making this course more accessible for newcomers and advanced users alike

November 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/studying.veggie

There is this really awesome app called Lingodeer for learning Korean, Japanese, and Chinese. It has a really nice set up and it is super beginner friendly. It is free and you can even do it offline. It has helped me a lot and made doing Korean on Duolingo much easier.

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JJDiner

Where can someone apply? Do you have more information regarding this?

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply but Soedori may have a special process in mind this time

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

18 and above, and yes. We have post essay assignments

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.

Unfortunately, my knowledge of Korean is HORRIFIC and I'm nowhere near fluent, or else I probably would've already applied.

I just want to thank whichever contributor added this sentence.

I'm not joking or making fun of you, seriously, thanks.

December 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

Ahh, a joke, while at the same time, not a joke :)

December 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

I've decided to concentrate on other sites. Best of luck to you and the team in developing the course.

January 14, 2018
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