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Kein/nicht question

Shall I say: "Ich mag keine Nudeln" or "Ich mag Nudeln nicht"?

November 29, 2017

11 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hannibal-Barkas

the first one is better. The second one might work for "I would like to eat because I don't like noodles - Ich möchte Reis essen, denn Nudeln mag ich nicht"

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kit845299

Both versions are possible. I dare say, you might hear "Ich mag keine Nudeln" a bit more often. To me personally, this version feels a little bit more natural.

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/niki250

Danke schön! But when do I generally use "nicht" then?

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaPau

Perhaps to sound more serious... (may be a personal interpretation)

But if you use a verb as a noun, the later is always used:

ex. Ich mag (das) Bergsteigen nicht - I don't like mountain climbing (here the noun Bergsteigen comes from the verb bergsteigen - to climb a mountain)

in this case you would never say: Ich mag kein Bergsteigen.

(I mean, you could hear children speak like that, or if someone wants to sound posed defiant - but in the other cases, no)

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gmbka

Ja, nicht moegen plus verb erfordert nicht. Aber: Ich moechte kein Spielverderber sein. Oder: Ich moechte nicht ein Spielverderber sein. Deutsche Grammatik ist schwierig.

November 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

Jack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean...

(I'd go with keine.)

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/roses_deutsch

u would say ich mag keine nudeln

November 29, 2017

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    Ich mag keine Nudeln. This is the correct grammar. The second example works if you say: Ich mag diese Nudeln nicht. (I don't like these pasta.) The word order is changing if you speak about sth. generally or sth. specific.

    November 29, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MichaPau

    Etwas nicht mögen. - aka - Ich mag etwas nicht.

    I don't see anything that wouldn't be correct grammer.

    Adding diese to the example just change Nudeln in general to a specific pack, meal or sort of Nudeln.

    November 29, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RedAngel666

    Stravo Nina,

    Generally you can say if you have a definite article you use 'nicht'.(Ist das Dein Hund? Nein, das ist nicht mein Hund) If you have an indefinite article you use 'kein/keine/keiner' (Ist das ein Auto? Nein, das ist kein Auto).

    In your example the words are interchangeable. If you want to make a difference you could say 'Ich mag keine Nudeln' refers to your current bias. you don't like pasta now. 'Ich mag Nudeln nicht' refers more to the fact that you don't like pasta in general. In real life you can hear both. And because Germans are quite sloppy with that your conterpart will ask you if you only now or generally like pasta if he wants to know it.

    best regards Angel

    November 29, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gmbka

    Ich glaube beides ist richtig.

    November 30, 2017
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