https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

only 3 French skills to go and I still don't understand the subjunctive

But I will practice and practice and practice until I nail it. There are a number of other things I keep forgetting too, so I will practice and practice and practice more....

My new goal now for Christmas...to have understood French subjunctive and done enough practice to get those other things that keep flying out of my head as I try to force the new ones in in there.

Christmas will mark my 1 year at DL and French _a couple of streak freezes kicked in when the internet was poor, plus a few days also getting only one XP in order to keep streak going.

Thanks to all you great mods, and the rest of the community, who help so much!

December 2, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/Lleuyaven

The subjunctive is tricky, it helped me immensely to talk to native speakers to figure it out. There is an app called HelloTalk where you can talk to native speakers and get help, that's honestly how I learned it. I just kept asking questions and talking in French, I even made some friends along the way ;) It takes time to understand how it works, good luck!

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss

Hi Anne,

welcome to the club!

Even my Portuguese tree has multiple subjunctive skills :-)

When Memrise throws their sentences in the PT1-7 + Basic courses at me which also contain subjunction examples, I am feeling that it is a big big puzzle which slowly gets somehow connected (or not) the more often I see different material on different sites and I am repeating it with different resources.

Even I finished my Portuguese forward tree a few days ago (~1year), I know it will be a long road....I will also try to jump on the reverse PT-EN/PT-DE to being forced in writing Portuguese.

Do you have started already the reverse FR tree?

You can master to finish your tree in the next weeks before Christmas!

Good luck Anne!

BTW: Are you already using Camilo's user script "DuoLingo tree enhancer" to hear much more French audio, even in your forward EN-FR tree?
Well, it could happen that I already wrote about it to you in another thread ;)

Viele Grüße / Best regards

Thomas

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/vdaddy10

Could you explain what working the tree backwards is? Also what is "Duolingo tree enhancer"?

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss

@Pentaan

Please join this thread and add your longer comment how to work with Duo and what the benefit of all this reverse tree stuff is :-) :-)


Reverse tree:

  • FR-EN (for native English speakers)
  • FR-DE (for native German speakers)
  • FR-L2 (e.g SP laddering tree, if you learn SP from French)
  • FR-L3 (e.g IT, if you learn Italian from French as non-French-native speaker)

To make it short:

There will be a higher translation ratio into French, for the trees with base/source language.

"Ratio between translation directions when strengthening skills is not good in my opinion": https://www.duolingo.com/comment/24799102

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss

My "feeling" was correct, here is Anne's last thread: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/24916730

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/wjbett

The subjunctive in French IS tricky. Even the French argue about when to use it....

December 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel589120

I had trouble as with the subjunctive as well, so I found the following on youtube by a couple of French speakers, it really helped me a lot and I took notes on all of the videos and will watch them again occasionally; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5HtcEUrVGk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdHBM-h9r7E and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwZDDe7ptBQ.

December 2, 2017
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