It seems to be that Bee is Biene when almost everywhere else it's e before i. Understandably, I'm confused. If anyone can help me out with how German grammar works that would be helpful. Does the Word screen talk about grammar. I don't know. Thanks!

December 10, 2017


I think the "e before i" rule was about English, not German.

There are a bunch of words with ei (spoken as i ) zwei, drei, mein, dein...

and other bunch of words with ie (spoken as e) Biene, Fliege, Krieg..

For grammar, read the tips&notes for every lesson, and you can also look up other grammar sites.

December 10, 2017

But wasn't there that phrase "I before E except after C?" Which I changed to "I before E except after C, and some other random times!"

December 10, 2017

Yes, I have heard that phrase. It is for English spelling. And even that includes random times :)

December 12, 2017

I think that (unfortunately) as with so many grammar in German you need to learn them. Some words are with “ei” and some with “ie”. The good news is that the pronouncitation is always the same, not as in English. The “ie” is a long German i. Other words are : Bier, Lied, Frieden.

By the way, if you had an “ei” in Biene it would be another word: Beine (legs).

December 10, 2017

in German, usually 'ie' makes an ee sound, e.g. Biene, viele, liebe etc. whereas 'ei' makes an I sound, e.g. Bein, Kleine, mein etc.

In english there's very little pattern to it (protein doesn't rhyme with vein, but vein rhymes with vain???)

December 10, 2017

Oh. That makes sense. Thanks!

December 18, 2017

Hi Jackson,

'ie' like in Biene, Fliege, Bier, Sieg are a hint to the pronounciation. All these words are spoken with a long 'e' like bleeding or breed. But no rule without exeptions so don't kill me if you find a word with 'ie' that is spoken whith a short 'e'. :-)

Best regards Angel

December 10, 2017
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