Help test Duolingo's new Spanish course!
We have been working on a new and improved Spanish course for English speakers and it's almost ready for testing :)
Does this sound like something you're interested in? You can help!
We're seeking Spanish learners of all levels, from novice to advanced, to play with the new content and share feedback. Testers receive early access to the new course and the chance to help us improve it.
Sign up here to become a Duolingo Alpha Tester!
I would expect they will ask alpha testers to keep quiet about the differences until beta.
If I was going to guess, they have already tried integrating Bots on iOS, so they might be integrating Stories. Possibly.
They were recruiting an animator a while back, so they might be dong something in that area, but you would expect something related to that to appear in Labs first.
@HelpfulDuo: unlike Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, this will be a course that many are already taking. In that case, will the tested tree be integrated into the existing one, replacing it, introduced as an independent tree, or tested on separate accounts (or without registration) to avoid any clash between the two?
How are you supposed to tell if you've been chosen as an Alpha Tester when you sign up?
I'm pretty sure I did, knowing I have a few emails I may have not, but I'm 99% sure I did in December 2017 and I haven't received an email, do they take a while to come through, or has the course just not been open to beta test yet (or the other unfortunate possibility is I have not been chosen for some reason, which I wouldn't know why).
It's so funny how everbody is complaining about how bad this FREE language learning platform is. Like, I don't get it. If you want something that has almost zero mistakes, how about buying a programm? I, for one, think Duolingo is great. Yes, it does have some flaws but you know, it's created from human beings. We all have flaws ;) Be grateful for the opportunity to learn languages (Not to mention the range of languages they offer) MUCH LOVE
How about you stop breaking existing features (slow audio, annoying duplication of simple sentences) in existing courses, before pouring effort into something new like this?
It's painful for me to watch the state of DuoLingo these days...I have submitted dozens of bug reports, very few of them are ever fixed. New things break every week.
Yet the official staff comes in here making posts like this about this new feature, that new partnership, this new thing in the "labs" section. Stop trying to expand or make big package changes, focus on actually fixing the numerous problems with the courses you have. Focus on following up on past updates. You did a major overhaul to the forums, but you still haven't fixed the numerous problems it introduced. You launched Chinese and Japanese, but still haven't fixed very basic / fundamental bugs or glitches in those courses like mispronunciation of certain characters. You launched an update to the DuoLingo stories, but without fixing the fact that it still doesn't work on Chrome on my system and without fixing the annoying echoey slow audio. You introduced a male voice and it broke the slow audio in every language for which it was introduced. Virtually everything new you've done, has been buggy and many have been breaking or hurting existing features.
Once you're caught up on basically maintaining the site as-is, then, only then, it makes sense to think about expansion.
That's just my two cents...feel free to ignore me. But please note, I had been a paid subscriber for 2 months and I recently cancelled, because I don't like the direction the site has been going in recently. I suspect I am not the only one who feels this way.
I suspect that if you continue down this road, you are going to fail big time. Then you can go down in fame as the people who took a beautiful company with a beautiful product and ruined it. Who wants that? No one. Certainly not the millions of users who use and benefit from this site daily.
this is literally the #1 change I've wanted them to make to something existing (updating and expanding what is currently the most popular course for english speakers on the website), and there's still someone complaining about it. the chinese course is quite good (I receive "we now accept your translation" emails on a daily basis) and I can't speak to the other new features, which all run just fine for me.
to me, duolingo is making the right changes. Czech, Chinese, and the updated Dutch, Welsh, German, and Norwegian courses introduced in 2017 have all been excellent. I'll give you Japanese, which was a big disappointment. otherwise...millions of users remain.
I am in total agreement. If every company stopped progress in an effort to "perfect" all the existing processes, we would be living in a totally different world, missing hundreds of innovations we now treasure or take for granted. It we couldn't build a freeway before making sure all the potholes were filled on the county roads, what shape would our transportation system be in? Companies sometimes have to discontinue practices or services loved by their customers because they are no longer practical, and in fact, might threaten the company's survival. I, too, miss immersion, and our personal activity streams, but that is better than missing DL altogether. I also miss the milkman and housecalls by my doctor.
I agree. I started learning English from Spanish in order to improve my Spanish and get a new perspective on things, but many words in the very first lessons had fatal mispronunciations. I reported these errors, but as far as I'm concerned, they have not been fixed since I reported them months ago.
I think what they're asking has to do with the same issue I've encountered before. I've alpha tested a couple of things, and you have to get an approved update. If I use one Gmail account as my main account for Google Play, and a different account for Duolingo, the invite comes to my Duolingo email, and when I try to download the new update, it says I'm not authorized. I believe there is a workaround for it, which is changing the sign-in account account from the drop-down menu on Google Play, but I'm not for sure, yet.
Just a quick reminder here for folks who read and signed up, and for anyone who signed up without reading the agreement:
Once they launch the alpha test, don't post screenshots or other details in the forums about anything you volunteer to alpha test. Staff will announce to alpha testers where they can submit feedback.
This message is not an indication that the test group launches soon. I don't have that info. It's just because I signed up to alpha test and recalled that sometimes people forget and are removed from the alpha test group and banned from alpha testing in the future.
Unfortunately only spotted this discussion now. Excited that we will have more Spanish content and wondering how this is going to work [?replacing old course ?side by side but all xp points go to one spanish score]. I hope I'm not too late to become an alpha tester. I just tried to sign up and got this message: Test Duolingo's new Spanish course! Your response has been recorded. Submit another response
Not sure what is meant by "Submit another response". What's next? Wait for an email I guess?
I signed up for alpha testing a couple of months ago. Today my gold Spanish tree has become only about 1/3 gold, mostly in the later lessons. The majority of lessons are showing as 0 sections complete. Is this due to me being switched to the new alpha testing course, or should I report a bug to Duolingo?
I got the email, but not the new lessons. Could it be because there's an extra dot in my email address in my duolingo account, which I forgot to add to the alpha tester sign up form? (like "email@example.com" and "firstname.lastname@example.org")
If that is the case, what should I do to get the lessons - remove the dot from my duolingo profile, or resubmit the alpha tester form with the extra dot in the email address? (God, I feel so stupid!)
is it a "special" alpha-testing process or is it the standard one (=the one inside the incubator) where only 3 alpha-testers can be invited?
If it's a special one, is it only for app users like the previous special ones (for Japanese, Chinese and Korean)?
oh no I'm a month too late :(
As far as we know(°), the application is still open. Hence you're not to late, you can still apply.
(°) based on:
- No announcement by Duo that it started
But there may be none when it'll start, so not a strong clue by itself.
- The link to apply is still here in the OP of this official announcement.
But they may forgot to remove it once it starts, so not a strong clue by itself.
- No one here said "Great, I'm alpha-testing it!".
For other large-scale A/B test with applications, there are usually several of such messages either on the announcement or in separate new discussions. Not having such things is quite a good clue that it didn't starter, IMO.
Two of the above are not "by themselves" strong clue but combining the 3, there is IMO no reason to think it started.
i signed up.... Today I reached level 25 and I am so happy with Duo. It took 310 days, and an effort level of about 45 minutes to an hour a day. Now I am able to read the paper (slowly!) and other things, constrained mainly by my small vocabulary (which I have not stressed yet).
I am STILL LEARNING - Duo is now hammering away on the subjunctive, irregular verbs, prepositions for various idioms, plus my characteristic mistakes, which it knows.
During this drama at about level 18 or so, we went to Latin America and we could survive there OK and chat with taxidrivers (who were VERY patient). I still cannot read Teresa of Avila but she uses a lot of vos and that may be why.
For nine months of work this is an incredible payoff. Thank You Duo!!
The good thing about Duolingo is you are learning just as children learn, no tables of conjugation just speach. Ok there are some errors but it's a great way to inbed the language. It's fun too. I reached level 25 67% quite early but as I used to do Spanish I ought to but living in the UK we get no chance to hear Spanish daily. Duolingo gives us this. After 213 days I still make stupid errors, mostly by not taking my time. Well done you on your amazing streak.
I also wanted to say, y estoy seguro todo agree, that we are very thankful that this app is FREE. Hay muchas cosas que we should pagar en la vida, pero wanting to communicate con people shouldn't be one of them. I am so thankful to this app y I pray that you guys don't lose sight of the goal for profit. This is by far the best learning app I have ever encountered, muchas gracias. ~
Where should I post a problem I have about the improved Spanish course?
I got the same email I think about getting a second batch of alpha testers once they work on accounts with student and observer status...something like that. That was the only email I ever got about alpha testing and I don’t see any changes to my tree either. There is no reason I can think of for why my account would be observer or student status. Hopeful but confused.
Will this be just for this course, or is it once you sign up you will either have the chance to or be expected to test courses each time the site wishes to improve a ( in this case English course?
Just applied. When will we expect to hear more about being part of the Alpha program? Does everyone who signs up get to be a part of it, or is it going to be a random sample?
Also, I think I might have entered a different email than the one my DL account is through. Is that going to create problems?
Edit: Went ahead and also applied with my DL email, just in case
Hi GailOSulli ,
Filling it several times will not make response come sooner. In fact, if it has any effect, it'll only be to increase the time staff will need to go through the whole list of applications (the day they'll start going through it) hence to delay the responses.
Given that the OP says "it's almost ready for testing", it's possible that they still didn't start to select alpha-testers as they don't need them yet.
Another possibility is that they already pick them all (who received then a notification) and the ones (like us) without notification/responses are the one not selected.
Summarizing: there is only one thing to do, to wait and see.
Will the new course fix the fact that after making the tree gold, I get practices like "nuestras camisas" "mis pantalones"? Clearly a waste of time for someone who has completed and maintained golden the whole tree! Once the whole tree is gold, learners need increased complexity, not back to the absolute basics!
What you describes is controlled by algorithms that apply to all courses, so I would not hope for this announced "new version" of one course to change anything around that.
If staff means the "usual" meaning of "new version of a course" on Duo when they speak about "Duolingo's new Spanish course", then it's about a new organization of units/skills and/or of what lexemes is introduced where in the tree, etc.
Basically, "new version" of tree usually means (on Duo) a change on the content, not a change on how the content it's taught.