https://www.duolingo.com/W322

Chinese Lessons are too Strict on Answers

The answers required on the Chinese Lessons aren't what people will usually say in English. When they ask you to translate Chinese to English, I'm forced to type in a way that no one ever uses anymore. I speak fluent English and Chinese, so I can tell you that it needs to be fixed. One example: I put in United Kingdoms for 英国, but it marked me wrong and said the correct answer is UK. The Chinese is also sometimes grammatically incorrect.

December 17, 2017

22 Comments


[deactivated user]

    Well as a native speaker I've been helping people on the forums for a month now in sentence discussions. Was alpha-testing, and half of my correct and fluent answers weren't accepted. When you come across those sentences, report them. Honestly, some translations were horrible eg "Who needs a fork" is supposed to be 谁需要个叉子, but the so-called correct translation is 谁要叉, which is an unnatural way of saying "Who WANTS a fork". But then, it's a beta course, so we should give it some time.

    December 18, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/London9

    You're are absolutely right, but i really feel they shouldn't have let this out to the public as its definitely not ready

    December 18, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/Christophe847078

    I agree, the test out function crashed 5 times before I was actually able to finish it.

    December 21, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/cazort

    I have seen numerous complaints in the forums from native speakers that the translations are incorrect. Some of the English translations that are recommended are awkward and occasionally I've found one that is egregiously incorrect.

    What I don't get...I know so many people who are native Chinese speakers and also speak very good English. Wouldn't they have a potentially massive pool from which to choose from? How could they have possibly selected people from the team who would make mistakes?

    And does the team even have any native English speakers on it, checking the English translations?

    Some of the failures in the course seem really basic. What is going on here?

    December 18, 2017

    https://www.duolingo.com/NasuSamaruk0

    Alternative solutions not looked upon for certain problems. This causes the major issue for learners.

    Even though I haven't tried the incubator, I have a good intuitive thoughts about their creation of the course inside out.

    December 19, 2017

    [deactivated user]

      To my knowledge DL only uses its own staff to make the Chinese course, and volunteers weren't accepted in the Incubator. I could be wrong though.

      December 19, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Mr.rM
      • 1498

      There are certainly volunteers (not staff) among the contributors.

      December 21, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/S0R0USH

      Even Turkish had problems like this when I finished it in beta. It's BETA. Report and move on. It'll be much better in a year or two.

      December 22, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/LazyEinstein

      Everybody just wants everything handed to them in perfect quality. Beta literally means the course has not been completed or officially released.

      December 25, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Mr.rM
      • 1498

      My 2 cents here: They will mostly wait for it to become “stable” instead of solving all the main issues. That's what I observed in the reverse course.

      December 26, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Ted302303

      I feel the more you progress in this course, the more you have to remember duos "perfect answers", otherwise you will just keep getting it wrong.

      Lately whenever I try to "strengthen my skill", I spend most of the time not learning words I have forgotten, but trying to remember whether the sentence have placed the time before the object or the object before the time. It is utterly frustrating.

      December 20, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/scifisuede

      I get this feeling too. It's like I'm not learning to understand but rather to memorise the correct Duo translation!

      December 20, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/HebrewNerd

      Chinese was a course duolingo rushed on EXTREMELY bad. Having Chinese would attract more people to the site, as it's a language that's sought after in most apps and sites like this. I believe Chinese was completed in literally around a month.

      December 17, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/cazort

      It shows, there are serious deficiencies in the course beyond those the OP mentions here. I recently posted about how the hover-over hints are abysmal, many of them are totally missing or outright wrong, and I have seen literally zero progress or improvement in the hints since the course was launched...in spite of reporting.

      Clearly, the team is overwhelmed and/or lacks the resources to keep up with the reports.

      December 18, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/okayls

      I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I learned Chinese in college but had to quit the course because I didn't have time. I want to pick it up again and get better, but a lot of the answer are too strict, or not really right-- for example, in Contact 1, it uses "cellphone" and "number" interchangeably which... I've never heard of before? (Not to say I'm an expert at all). The way the lessons use 叫 is also really unstable, and in the same lesson will mark it being used as "call me ___" as both correct and incorrect. :(

      December 18, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/malkeynz

      Report report report. This is why the button exists, this is how the accepted answers improve. Remember the course is technically in beta.

      Also if you literally put "United Kingdoms" then you may have got it wrong because of the "s" (should be "United Kingdom").

      December 20, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/nwwsl

      Yeah, I have the same issue with it...

      One sentence said: There is no sun太阳 today.

      Not: There is no sunlight阳光 today.

      Which is illogical in Chinese and English.

      My wife tried learning English through Chinese, and found translations to be incorrect or too strict as well.

      December 18, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/scifisuede

      Ditto on this. I do have some basic knowledge in Chinese and even though I translate the sentences into English correctly, they would mark it wrong because of a slight difference in wording.

      December 19, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Shabalabalaba

      I'm trying to find a cheat on duolingo tell me if you guys find one

      July 1, 2018

      https://www.duolingo.com/DarkLegends7321

      True

      December 21, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/ErnieGang

      do u know how ed you are?!?!?!?!If it told you to type it in English then you type in the UK which is the way, America would pronounce the United Kingdoms.You have to give me at least 2 lingots for that everybody gives me my lingots because that makes sense.If they were asking you to type it in Chinese then you would use the word bank.DER!!!Use common sense now everybody gives me my lingots.NOW!!!!

      December 19, 2017

      https://www.duolingo.com/Nameless-Learner

      That is really rude of forcing people to give you lingots , if people want to they can if they don't , don't even try to force them .

      January 21, 2018
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