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i am a new learner for german !! is it possible to reach a b2 level in 6 month ?

December 20, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NedimAzapa

In theory, everything is possible, including having B2 in 6 months.

That said, while reaching B2 in German in 6 months is possible in theory, it is highly unlikely in practice. In order to reach that stage so quickly you have to be very dedicated, which means you must have teacher, and probably to attend some regular classes of German language (intensive course, which is several hours every day), and learn at home as well. Probably on higher levels you would have to start to watch TV programs and read on German.

Using Duolingo only will not get you to B2, not even to B1.

I am around that level and it took me considerable more time, around 2 years to reach B1 (although I admit I did not learn very intensively and had many breaks) and last 6 months I am in Germany, and that made only move from B1 to around B2, so finally I can have some almost normal conversations here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/George--Smith

According to the German language school Berlin (one of the most reputable sources on this), you can reach B2 level in 600 study hours.

To do that in 6 months, that'd take 100 hours per month, which is around 3 hours and 20 mins per day.

Since not all your study will be serious intense lesson based stuff, and will probably involve some passive learning (reading, listening, watching), to be safe this should be rounded up to 4 hours per day, every day for 6 months.

These numbers will vary from person to person and depending on your choice of learning method, so should just be taken as a general guide, not exact.

Here's a link to their site if you wanna learn more: http://www.gls-german-courses.de/2009.html

So, are you willing to spend 3 to 4 hours a day, for six months, to get decently fluent?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wairanmax

As for me, since I have only a few months to apply to a German Studienkolleg, YES. Plus Duolingo German tree has grown bigger, and I am a good learner, so 2-3 hours a day would be enough for B2 I guess


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

@wairanmax

Plus Duolingo German tree has grown bigger, and I am a good learner, so 2-3 hours a day would be enough for B2 I guess

To push to B1 / B2 CEFR levels you IMHO need to switch your learning to the target language and immerse yourself into it.

I do not really think that Duolingo can push you to B2, not even (full) B1.

Maybe there are some parts included for B1.1 (e.g grammar, some vocbulary) in the German classic / non-CEFR course (sorry, I am not a German course contributor)...

but without:

  • being able to read more complex / longer text which contains of multiple sentences, adds nested sentences
  • answering concrete questions to a story / 2-3+ person dialog
  • formulating your ideas and expressing them in your target language
  • having conversations with real people
  • being able to write longer paragraphs / essay texts and correctly apply all grammar which you have learned and use of learned vocabulary so it sounds more "rounded"

Without that, I do not think anybody will be completely ready for higher CEFR levels...and for sure not with Duolingo alone.

The final question even is, how much vocabulary (or grammar) a Duolingo tree might miss (which parts) from the lower A1 or A2 CEFR levels.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wairanmax

I just use Duolingo as a starting course, it gives me the basics and I can read more details in wikipedia or on the internet as I encounter new nuances. I'm first going to finish the Duo tree and explore all the stories. (it'll take 2-3 weeks) Then I'll practice with simple texts from songs, family and kids movies and shows. Then I'll try watching more shows, movies, youtube and reading some stuff. I also need to find people on the internet to communicate in German. And that should be it. Well, that's how I learned English, but I had more time.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SomeFr3nchDude

I don't think finishing the English version of the German tree in 2 to 3 weeks is a practical let alone a good way to go about it


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salim40349

Get a private tutor to organize this.
Resources:
Get a good picture dictionary or large dictionary. A complete grammar book. A complete verb conjugation book or website. A resource for different sentence constructions. A list of nice websites or courses from beginner to advanced levels.

Techniques:
Learn reading and writing in books or websites or courses. Listening and speaking resources through books or websites. TV radio newspaper songs. Conversation topics and themes. Situational settings for shopping, cinema, booking, travelling, dining, friends, family and so on. Translation resources back and forth. Podcasts to listen to. Short stories. Poster design and art work.

Styles:
(possible methodology)
Morning - excitement to learn something new - new coursework - read, understand, learn
Afternoon - drills to master what you have learnt - repeat, practice, correct
Evening - Tests with tutor. Homework correction. Ask doubts, confirm what you have learnt. Mark what you know, what still needs further learning. Figure out what is easy at this stage, what is difficult. What to tackle now, what later.
In between, take time to exercise, eat right, rest and sleep proper, engage in peaceful activities.

Points:
Be careful with your health, take a walk if stressed. Be aware of the motivation. Get through the easy stuff fast and get more practice drills for difficult areas. Have 3 tutors if possible, in time, for different styles and learning.

Later on try to talk in groups, watch movies, engage in public conversations.
German grammar is difficult for some people, but in general, A1 A2 B1 each take about 2 months, so adding B2 is plausible, or add two months. It is not a bad idea, because people who take longer do not necessarily advance beyond a basic level.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salim40349

Or search for schools to learn languages. There are libraries and books and audio-visual and other resources. Structured courses and advisors and tutorials. There will be a residential program. Will get to interact with other students and teachers throughout the day. Visit places or interact with the public.

If you just plan to stay at home and study online - try websites such as italki and see if any online tutor will be able to offer a program for this.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/territrades

If you are not exceptionally talented, I say no.

Maybe if you had total immersion and spoke to Germans all day long. But normally such attempts fail at speaking the language; you might have learnt the Grammar and built a vocabulary, you even understand written texts - but oral communication will break your neck.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cat-ka

I did it in 9 months. But for last three months, I was unemployed and I had plenty of time to learn. I also had german in primary school. I didnt remember a lot, but at least language was not completely new for me.

I suggest one to one private classes (I had two per week per skype), watching a lot of (hours daily) TV series in german, changing all your accounts to german language, including phone settings, reading german articles on topics you are interested in. You need to create your own german world to have german everywhere. Start to think how would you say this or that in german. I was talking to myself a lot :D
Duolingo was for me only bonus to everything else I have been doing to learn german.

I also dont think it is possible in 6 months, unless you are very talented and also unemployed with plenty of time to learn. You can study vocabulary and grammar for months and have a good understanding. But listening and speaking skills needs time. You normally think that you are terrible at it :D until one day, It will all click on the right place but it needs time.

Good luck !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

What is the reason that you have to reach B2 that fast?

The Portuguese tree (over 400 lessons) from scratch without any previous Romance language skills took me about ~1 year.
I used Memrise in parallel to DAILY review vocabulary (typing in the L2 target language), which Duo does not provide well.

I would expect that the DuoLingo German tree will take you about 1-1,5years (or longer), if you do not just rush through the tree.

DuoLingo trees are known for not beeing a "speed booster" or bringing you to speak the language fast.
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You will read many German sentences in the forward English-German tree, but you will only type (higher ratio) in your target language on the web portal for the reverse tree German-English

If I were you, I would define new more realistic goals :-)

If you want to practice speaking and learn fast, IMHO you would have to visit a local language school and practice multiple hours / the full day with different material (listening, grammar, reading, speaking).

Want a speed booster at home? Try my challenge: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/25606961


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scifisuede

I don't think it's impossible. I'd suggest taking intensive courses though because they really did boost my skill and confidence. (I took the whole B1 level in one month intensive course at Goethe Institut, and our teacher said our class was so good that we were more at the mid-B2 level already at the end of it). So if you really put your mind and effort into it, I'm sure you can do it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ID-007
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Theoretically, yes!! If you could take the A2-B2 courses back to back and work your way through A1 level course... For example, see:

http://www.gls-german-courses.de/2009.html

In reality, it would depend on:

  1. What other languages you already know
  2. How much time you can dedicate to it
  3. Your ability to pick up and retain all the information
  4. How good you are at learning natural languages

HTH.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/case02

Was ist B2 genau?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/George--Smith

It's an exam defined measured fluency level, that according to the German Language School Berlin implies the learner is 'able to participate in demanding discussions' in their target language

http://www.gls-german-courses.de/2009.html


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HenryvonHaag

B2 - Niveau ist eine der Grundvoraussetzungen um z. B. den deutschen Pass zu beantragen. Manche der brexitgeschockten Engländer, die in Deutschland wohnen, büffeln gerade auf B2


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HerrGerman1

I guess so! Keep learning!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HenryvonHaag

Das ist aber sehr ehrgeizig. Ich denke, das ist nur möglich, wenn du talentiert bist und jeden Tag mindestens 6 Stunden fleißig übst. Solltest du diesen Kommentar ohne Übersetzungshilfe auf Anhieb verstehen, dann bist du allerdings schon nahe an B2 dran.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonaldDictator

yes, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LauraLalo

only if you live in Germany, other way is impossible.

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