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話せます and 話します

What is the difference?

December 24, 2017

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kansokusha

Well, for starters, both are different inflections of the verb 話す, which means "To speak". The first one you typed, 話せます, is the potential form with polite ending, meaning " can speak". The second one, 話します, is exactly the same as 話す ("To speak"), only using the polite ending ~ます.

Examples:

  • I speak Japanese. = 私は日本語を話す (standard)
  • I speak Japanese. = 私は日本語を話します (polite ending)
  • I can speak Japanese. = 私は日本語を話せます (potential form, polite ending)

Also, the potential form without using the polite ending would be 話せる。

  • I can speak Japanese. = 私は日本語を話せる (potential form, no polite ending)

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tudhalyas

Thank you. I was literally wondering why Duo would teach me this verb in the "potential" tense first rather than in the "nonpast indicative" tense which I gather is the lemma you can search into the dictionary. ありがとうございます!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arachnje

話します means “speak”, and 話せます means “can speak” or “is able to speak “


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arachnje

どういたしまして。You can use the same principle to change any verb from its do into can do form, which is also known as the potential form. Click here to read more about the topic.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael178939

What about 話ます (where it's still hanashimasu but the shi doesn't show up)? I recall in another unit I was marked wrong for choosing the option 話します


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Swisidniak

話ます does not exist.
話す is the dictionary form of the verb and the ending す is the part that conjugates to し when in polite form.
You can only add ます directly after the kanji if the dictionary form of the verb ends in an "iru/eru" sound such as 寝る 'neru' sleep which becomes 寝ます nemasu
If the question was related to ability you were probably marked wrong for writing 話します because the sentence required the potential form of the verb 話せます・話せる
Either that or it was along the lines of "we will have a talk" where 話 was actually being used as a noun pronounced "hanashi" and combined with the verb する・します "to do". As a noun is the only time 話 uses "shi" is part of the actual reading.
話をします - to do talking, to have a talk


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael178939

Thank you! I think it was the last case

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