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Tips & Notes error

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Hey guys,

I'm still learning the language but I believe there is a mistake in the Tips & Notes from the "Not" and "Negatives" skills. In the last paragraph about the Position of 'nicht', it is stated that it comes in the end of the sentence "after direct objects like "mir" = "me,"". Aren't direct objects in the accusative case, therefore "mich" not "mir"? And as far as I could see, 'nicht' comes in the end of sentences using both 'mich' and 'mir', am I right? (e.g. "Sie mögen mich nicht")

Well, I am not a fluent speaker at all, so I might be wrong, but I just wanted to check this and, in case I'm right, report the error.

Cheers!

12/28/2017, 3:17:09 PM

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https://www.duolingo.com/FrankEdger
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Part of the confusion may be because of the verb being used. For example: (English) He's not helping me. (German) Er hilft mir nicht.. "Me" is a direct object, however, in German, the verb 'helfen' must be followed by a dative form. There are a number of verbs in German which are always followed by a particular case, whether it be genitive, dative, or accusative. You undoubtably know that various prepositions also 'require' certain cases whereas others 'float' between one case or another, i.e., in das Haus (ins Haus) vs. in dem Haus (im Haus).

12/28/2017, 4:18:50 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Diogo.Alvarez
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Thank you for your reply! It's still not completely clear to me, though. Doesn't that mean that the verb 'helfen' requires an indirect object in German, therefore 'mir'? Or are the dative case and the concept of an indirect object not quite the same in German? What I mean is that the same verb may ask for different kinds of objects in different languages, so I thought of the case of the object to determine its kind (direct/indirect) so far. Just to give an example I'm familiar with, the verb 'to watch' requires a direct object in English, while its equivalent in Portuguese ('assistir') asks for an indirect object when carrying the same meaning as 'watch'.

And coming back to the position of 'nicht': is it placed in the end of the sentence only after direct objects or also after indirect ones? Thank you!

12/29/2017, 10:56:14 AM
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