Announcing the completion of the Hindi tree
Dear Duolingo fans, would-be beta learners, would-be learners and all!
We would like to share this breaking news with you before you see it on CNN :)
The Hindi tree inside the incubator for the English for Hindi course is now complete. This means that all the 1,952 words have been covered. A minimum of three sentences teaching each of these words have been translated. With this our course is now 95% complete. Here is a preview of the last part of the tree.
So what is remaining? We now have just a few strings that need to be translated so that the Duolingo interface appears in Devanagari in its entirety. We are expecting this to be done in a day or two. Here is a preview of how the Devanagari interface would look like.
After we are done with the remaining few strings, the Duolingo team would have to work their magic to bring the course to beta. So you can expect the official announcement from Duolingo about our course heading to the beta taxiway very soon.
Before we are ready to take off on our maiden flight, a thorough flight check is highly desirable. Although our team has put in its best effort, we will need help from all beta learners. Your questions, suggestions, and feedback are very valuable to us. We would really like to benefit from your collective knowledge of this language pair. We will shortly be sharing a few notes that might make the beta run go smoothly.
Great! I will try to learn Hindi with this course, because I can't wait to have "Hindi for English speakers"! But I hope it will be very soon :D
I learned a bit of devanagari, if the reverse tree has devanagari + transcription, it will great :-D
There are limitations of space. For some skills we had to put very short Hindi names which got so cryptic... Once you find us on beta, let us know how it goes...
Ok, when do you think the reverse tree could be ready (very approximately), I know there are still a lot of work with a tree in beta.
EDIT: thanks for the reply. About 4/8 months? Great!
That's great! I really want to learn Hindi as my friend is a native speaker. Just now I only know "Nameste, mara nam lewis heh, kaise hey?"
Lewis/Adam, आप दोनों कुछ और हिंदी सीखने के लिए बिलकुल तैयार दिखते हैं। You both appear totally ready to learn a bit more of Hindi :)
Lingots to both of you for the effort :)
Kaise ho? Mera naam felicia hain. Main amrika se hoon aur hindi bhi sikh rahi hoon. Aap kahan se hain?
aap - you Main - I kahaan - where se - from Amrika - America hai, hain, hoon - am, is are sikhna - to learn sikh rahi - I am learning. bhi - too
As our end of the bargain with our course mentor, Mukkapazza, we have been teaching her nuances of cricket (the game, that is...). And writing it in Devanagari was a 'sixer' in itself! A sixer in cricket is a home run in baseball for anyone who might not be initiated. And the batsman/batswoman (batter) gets six runs for himself/herself and the team :)
This must be Indian English. In Australian English we only ever talk about a 'six', e.g. "they need to hit a six off the last ball to win"
It well could be. What prompted me to write 'sixer' instead of 'six' was to stress that it was not the number 'six' for the sake of the uninitiated readers (in cricket, that is...). "They need to hit a six" is pretty common expression in Indian English too.
accha!!! Main softball high school mein khelti this..toh jab main hindi sikhna chahati hoon (so when I wanted to learn Hindi) main cricket khelti hoon. Kyunki yeh maza hai aur main hindi language ke liye sunti hoon...
Haha did that make sense?
And six lingots (छः मणि) to you pp65 as a tiny token for your invaluable continuing contribution.
We tried, it was a team effort. But wait until you see how some of the newer courses have been rolling. Watch out for Arabic and Greek teams who have been leading the list that has many other high charge teams :)
Yeah our team intends to beat them :P, one cannot hold the first place for so long :P
I will root for you! Faster incubator cycles are great for the entire community :)
I cannot help but wonder whether DL's theme of eggs means a great basket of DL-flavored Easter eggs is in the offing... Luis's middle name is not "Bunny" or "Rabbit," is it? ;)
I wonder why bunny's are popular everywhere around Duolingo's owl country :)
Awesome. Does the Hindi to English course cover the Latin alphabet, or is that assumed?
OldSpiceGuy, yes, that is assumed. Almost all the learners will be using a qwerty keyboard, so they would be knowing the Latin alphabet. Well, this is been our assumption. Let's see how that stands :)
Congratulations to you, and all Hindi-speakers. As quick the reverse has been done I will start learning this excellent language:)
It is so beautiful! Thank you everyone who is working on bringing this beautiful language to people who otherwise wouldn't be able to learn it! :)
And thanks for all the help you have provided. Having a moderator like you makes a great difference to this community :)
This language is one of my new years resolution to learn. Any progress on "HINDI" for english speakers? I've been using some other resources online, and just started on writing and memorizing some phrases. It is tough!!!
Duolingo is truly the best when it comes to learning languages. It's true I have tried with other sites they just never work for me. Like they start the program with the language you want to learn however they do it without telling you what the words even mean. Also Duolingo is a completely different system it's fun and you actually enjoy learning while playing it. I've been wanting to learn Hindi language. That way I can read what my friends from India post on their Facebook statuses. It is the worst thing not being able to make any sense out of a language. It is concrete barriers all the time. Also Devanagari script to me is the most beautiful looking language. It looks like it would easy to read as well. It has the perfect amount of detail without being too much. Some languages just look impossible to read without zooming in on the screen. Anyways I love the language and look forward to learning it.
Hi Josha, it's nice that you want to learn hindi language. It will a good idea to start learning devanagri alphabet now. If you learn devanagri alphabet, you will know that it's not only beautiful in appearence but also has beauty in it's logic. Whatever you see the smallest unit in devanagri like था , ब, है are not letters but a whole syllable. It's not necessary to learn whole alphabet of about 70 characters to get started. You can start with 3-4 vowels and 5 consonents to get a vibe of it. Then learn some next characters. By the way, those characters are bundled in well arranged manner. It will not be burden to go with a bit at a time .
That's so yay!! I wanted the Hindi for English speakers course! :D :D :D Now I can improve my Hindi! :D मैं अपनी पूरी कोशिश करुँगी!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What resources are you using? I'm always looking for more. I've compiled a list of my favorites http://hindiforchristmas.blogspot.com/2013/11/hindi-resource-list.html?m=1 hindipod101 and learning-hindi.com are two of my favorites. they dont replace what duolingo does but they will give you a good jumpstart to combine with duolingo when it does come out.
My roomMate is my teacher. Although there are several app like
Learn Hindi Quickly, Hindi Alphabets Reading Writing, Hindi Dictionary, Fun Easy Learn Hindi, ispeakhindi.com, and for youtube look for Anil Mahato!
Im just a beginner, still memorizing phrases and getting the feel of it. Its challenging for me. Im can now write up to 7 vowels after 10 days.
Is hindipod101 good?
What other resources do you use? I'm kinda at a plateau with my Hindi learning.
Amazing! I 've been learning Punjabi and Hindi for a while so for a long time I have been in expectation for a course on your website in any of those languages to improve my knowledge... Thanx U very much!!! :)
This is great news! अब वो ख़ुशी का पल और भी नज़दीक़ आ रहा है। Hats off to all the effort you'll have put in for this course! I'm literally marking off the days on my calendar. :) Can't wait for the course to come out. Whenever I think about the course, this phrase comes to my mind: कुछ ही देर में - डुओलिंगो हिंदी में!, like you had written in your profile some time ago. :) Way to go, Hindi team! I admire your efforts! I'll try my best to spread word about the course around my area.
Excellent, LeMaitre. Thanks for spreading the word and your support as always!
I also liked the Hindi name for 'lingot' - 'मणि'. Since it's pronounced as mani, it quite reminds you of 'money', and a lingot is Duolingo's money in a sense, so it's a nice little coincidence. :)
Great observation, LeMaitre! Our bigger concern was with the transliterated word for lingot, which would have meant 'underpants'. The team brainstormed for quite a while before voting for मणि :)
btw, you write very good Hindi!
Really? I don't know that word. That would be quite hilarious! :D So what's the transliterated word? Maybe, I may understand then. ;)
And really, my Hindi writing is not that great. But thanks anyway. :)
Lol! I love your sense of humor! My grandmother would have been suspicious about Duolingo if you would have named it लंगोट. Doesn’t मणि mean gem? Which is perfect since a lingot looks like a gem.
Our team had a laugh about it when it dawned upon us and then came up with मणि as a nice solution :)
So happy about of Hindi Course..... : )
Can't wait to see Taj Mahal on Duolingo's courses page. :D (I think that this monument is going to appear on the Duolingo to represent India. Isn't it?)
Each team is given the liberty to choose which monument they want on the course page. We've not discussed anything about this as yet, but it is likely that we will use the Taj Mahal :)
Congrats :) I'll keep my fingers crossed for a smooth beta phase for you guys :)
Thanks, we are hoping to bank on your expertise during the time we are on the taxiway as well as during the flight :)
I share the same feeling. Soon incubator will be churning out much more than a single person can learn in a lifetime :)
Congrats to jitengore and the rest of the hindi team. You flew through that course!! Looking forward to a reverse course sometime in the future :)
Sounds amazing! Congratulations and all the best!
Love what you guys are doing! Thanks a lot.
This is awesome! I have to say, this course is the one I've looked forward to the most out of all of them so far, you guys rock! शाबाश!
The full form is क्रिया: भविष्य काल (वाक्यांश) Verbs: Future Phrasal. Due to space constraints, we needed to use abbreviated forms on the skills tree.
If the names are not compact, they spill over and clutter the interface. Even we had no idea what क्रि.भ.वा would mean before we started :)
Once you are inside the skill, you will see the expanded name that pp65 has provided: "क्रिया: भविष्य काल (वाक्यांश)" for sentences such as:
- I am going to learn Hindi.
- मैं हिंदी सीखने जा रहा/रही हूँ।
Or even better :)
- I am going to like learning Hindi.
- मुझे हिंदी सीखना पसंद आने वाला है।
हिंदी बोलने वाले लोग तो फिर भी अंग्रेज़ी सीख लेंगे । असली काम तो तब आएगा जब अंग्रेज़ी बोलने वाले लोगों को हिंदी सिखानी होगी । उनकी भाषा हमारी भाषा से बहुत ज़्यादा अलग है । फिर उनके लिए हिंदी बोलना । पर अगर मन में इच्छा हो, तो लोग कुछ भी कर सकते हैं! :)
haan sahi hai. agar aap asha karna chahati hain, to yah hoga, na. haha meri hindi galat hai likin main koshish karti hoon
you learned hindi? Wow! I've seen very less people who learn hindi to a very high level! Congratulations! With practice, your grammar can be corrected!
Wohoo! Great work, jitengore and the rest of the hindi team! Hopefully we'll be right behind you to the beta. ;)
Your team has been exceptionally fast :) I will be waiting for your reverse course!
Thanks for patiently waiting, GowriShank3. It has taken us a little longer that we would have liked and we had anticipated.
ये तो बहुत अच्छा हुआ! आप लोगों ने यह बहुत जल्दी कर दिया! It must've been very difficult to do it so fast!
Congratulations! I have been loving learning Spanish through DuoLingo, and I have told my mother that the "English for Hindi speakers" course will be out soon, and she is really looking forward to it. I want her to have as much fun improving her English, as I'm having with improving my Spanish.
Good luck, and looking forward to seeing the beta course soon!
Thanks for your wishes. Sounds like you two can form a great team, once the team feature is out :)
Cool, I didn't know that a team feature was in the works. Looking forward to trying it out!
Oh impossible! Your speed is too fast and we lost the competition ; ), just kidding. Anyway, congratulations and thank you all for your patience and passion! @Jitengore!
How can I get in on the beta group for Hindi for English speakers? When will it come out?
I can't wait for you to flip this badboy into Hindi for English. Thanks for what you're doing.
That would be awesome if we could flip this into Hindi for English. My family speaks Hindi and I would really like to learn!
Full speed ahead! Jai Hind(i to English)!
:) Already so excited for your not-yet-announced English to Hindi course. ;)
Thanks Tariq! You always exemplify the goodness of the Duolingo community!
Interesting, I wonder what you mean by few, from what I recall there were more than 1000 interface strings, according to other contributors.
Anyway, it is interesting how each Incubator team adapts the unique interface strings to their language, e.g. lingot, Duolingo, and so on. It would be rather interesting if each team created a voice recording of their pronunciation of "Duolingo" and "Lingot", in their particular language.
I meant just a few more are remaining. In the last weekly updated we had reported having completed over 2,800 strings. There are over 3,300 strings at the moment, but all are not needed before entering beta.
That is a great thought about audio recording in different languages. Let's see what can be done :) For the Hindi course, we kept exactly the same pronunciation for Duolingo but had to change lingot, because it sounded close to the word for 'underpants' :)
Wow I really look forward to this! Can I know if this is for English to Hindi? Because that interface looks intimidating with Devanagari all over! I can't possibly learn basic Hindi when it is taught in Hindi! >.<
Well, this course is the English for Hindi speakers course. That's why there's all the Devanagari, because it's meant for Hindi speakers to learn English. But, I'm pretty certain, very soon, some time after this course comes out into beta and becomes stable, the reverse course will come out. :)
Thanks for the reply, LeMaitre. Yes, cerbervs, you are looking for the reverse course then.
Based on Duolingo's past metrics the work on that course should start anywhere between 3 to 6 months from now and the beta for that should be out this year.
Any room for any of us to get involved with that course? Great job on this one!
Thanks for expressing your interest. As far as the current course is concerned, the timing is not right. We would consider adding contributors during the beta phase. So, please do apply, in case you haven't done so already.
For the "Hindi for English" course, Duolingo will be announcing the team only when the current course moves to the third phase.
I really want to learn Hindi and can't wait for "Hindi for English speakers"!!!
Our English for Hindi course should be hopefully out of the beta phase by next month. Duolingo will probably announce the "Hindi for English speakers" around then.
hello thanks for all your efforts guys. i just wanted to know when the hindi for english speakers will be released ? thanks again
I had hoped for last year (2014) but now we will be starting this month - January 2015!
I've always wanted to learn Hindi, so hopefully we'll have a reverse tree soon :)
Agreed, I've been practicing Hindi for just over a year now...Can't wait for the Hindi to come out...My Hindi grammar needs help.
I, too, am eager for news about the Hindi for English speakers course! Thanks in advance.
I might have killed your beta score this week, sorry in advance if so... there were just some wacky grammatical things floating around, especially on the English side!
:) I might have asked this somewhere else on this page but not sure! but, how do I contribute to the Hindi for English course? (i.e. before beta)? thanks :)
It would be nice if you added Hindi for English speakers. I just downloaded this app for my smartphone and Hindi isn't even available for English speakers, so I am learning German.
when you launch hindi please do send me a email my email is : email@example.com i am ver eagerrrrrrrrrrr...
Hi... so so many people are waiting to learn Hindi via English.... PLEASE forget about teaching devanagari script, it only takes a day to learn from ANY website!! I've personally been waiting on this Hindi thing for three years :'( Please we will all be so happy and grateful when you finish Hindi for English speakers! :)
Great work!!! I just saw that there was a percent of progress made recently toward the Hindi for English speakers...The comment said to help in the forum...Can someone share the link to that forum. My Hindi is not great but I certainly have a basic conversational level so I may be able to help with some basics or at least if the translations into english make sense.
Cant wait for Hindi from English. Why was there a tree for Norwegian before Hindi? Some Indian cities are bigger than Norway perhaps! PS: The needs of the many are greater than the needs of the few - Spock logic
The Incubator holds many slots. Those slots wait for teams to volunteer to build them. So, while there are some considerations for size, if there is no team to build it, it can't be built. Additionally, those teams move at different paces for various reasons. So, there are a lot of factors involved in the order at which courses appear on the website. :)
EDIT: And if we believed that time is not linear but concurrent, at which time would we zero in on for deciding who or what is many and which are few? Because at times these numbers change. So, a spock from the future might not agree with the logic of the past, depending on what theories become fact or are debunked. ^_~
I don't like logic when it tells me I can't learn Hindi yet :P But good point..
Any more recent info on when we might be able to expect to see Hindi for English speakers? Would love to see that! Love the duolingo approach.
@feliciafollum, yes! Once Hindi for English speakers enters beta (Phase 2 in the Incubator), Duolingoers on the website can sign up and help test the course and report errors. :D
How will we know when it enters Phase 2 and/or where on the website to look to sign up? Also, where would one report mistakes in other, existing language programs?
Check the Incubator. Once Hindi for English speakers enter Phase 1, go to the Courses page and select English as your language. Hindi should have an entry there. It will then have a button to notify you. However, it only notifies people once the course stabilizes a certain amount, which not be exactly when the course hits Beta, but a little ways into beta. If you don't want to wait, just keep checking back to that page. But, if you think you'll forget, definitely push the button for a notification.
For reporting errors, whenever you input an answer as you are going through the course, just below where it shows a correction or alternative sentence there is a button that says "Report an Error".
I highly recommend you check out the WIKI It has an extensive FAQ and several how-to guides. It's a giant guide on nearly all things Duolingo. If you are looking for something specific on there, you can use Google and type in Duolingo Wikia followed by a key word such as Lingot, XP, Courses etc. :)
awesome! So this is where I ask you again if I can come in as a contributor! Or is that only for phase 2?
So, when will doulingo Start arabic course. For the past one year I am knocking on the door to start arabic but got response that it does not have Latin alphabets, but since when hindi has Latin alphabets.
"Teach Yourself Arabic" books are great, especially for learning how to write. That's how I taught myself to read Hindi, Punjabi, and Arabic.