https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

English from Chinese is now in beta!

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We are super excited to announce the release of the English course for Chinese speakers on our website. A huge thank you to the amazing contributors: libragold, chopin1810sy, Z.Shan, and simonjay, with help from fanqiuwen and sytang.

Of note is that we now also have a Chinese name: 多邻国 (Duō lín guó), which roughly means "multiple neighboring countries" :)

As with all brand new courses, there may be small issues here and there. If you're giving the course a try we hope you report anything you see using the button at the bottom of the screen during lessons. The course will continue to improve with your suggestions and feedback!

4/11/2014, 8:44:39 PM

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https://www.duolingo.com/stingerbee12

This is awesome! Big cheers to the English for Chinese speakers contributors! Big congratulations! Getting excited for reverse tree!

4/11/2014, 8:52:10 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Z.Shan
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Just woke up and our course is magically in Beta!!!! I want to say thank you to my dedicated teammates!!! Also a big thank you to the Duo team! Without their help we cannot bring the course to the community!!!

2014.04.12


UPDATE:
Chinese (Simplified or Traditional) speakers who are trying out our course please read this: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2586880

更新:
中文(简体或繁体)使用者,如果在试做我们的课程,请阅读一下这个: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2586880

More importantly, our course accepts traditional Chinese. Please report errors freely even if you are using traditional Chinese. Your help is much appreciated!!!

You may want to subscribe to:
"Duolingo in Chinese"
"English from Chinese"
"Troubleshooting in Chinese"
So that you're well-informed with all answers to the questions people are asking in this thread.

Thank you again to all the users sending us error reports. Please keep doing it and we'll get back to you soon!

I don't know why my previous announcement was downvoted by so many people so that no one was able to see it. What bothers me more is that people commenting "congratulations" and "awesome job" here are also getting downvotes. We know our course is not of its best quality now and there is a large space of improvement. Please have patience with us and kindly help us through sending us error reports and posting your valuable suggestions under the discussion forums mentioned above.

2014.04.13

4/12/2014, 2:32:06 AM

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Congratulations, Z.Shan and the rest of the team! And we are following close behind :)

4/12/2014, 5:24:02 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/UltraBimic

Hi, what you and the team have done is really great! But when i went there, i saw it said "undefined" in many places like the shortcuts or when you finish a skill. is that meant to be there?

4/12/2014, 8:32:36 AM

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I have also written an extension for chrome that can be installed here that will show traditional instead of simplified characters :)

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/duolingo-simplified-to-tr/clnnjdojceobnkhkocigpboialomopfk

12/17/2017, 2:08:53 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/sovanyio

You da real MVP

12/23/2017, 4:06:55 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/libragold

I am so excited about getting into the beta phase. Ahhhhhhh!

4/11/2014, 9:07:29 PM

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5/23/2016, 2:09:45 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchAddict7

Hourra! Can't wait for the reverse course!! Duolingo est incroyable pour apprendre les langues du monde!

4/11/2014, 8:50:35 PM

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I would love to sign this petition, but am uncomfortable giving my home address online! Is there a way to start a petition type thing that doesn't require a home address...I'm guessing I'm not the only one who feels this way!

5/3/2016, 4:13:35 AM

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Sorry I'm just now replying as I must've missed your comment before but that's certainly okay! We're almost there anyways, but I appreciate the support. ❤️

5/23/2016, 2:11:11 AM

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I just noticed. Nice.

Figuring out how to type the characters is a pain (but maybe worth the effort). Since it's a learn English course, I have to paste everything into Google to get the sounds. I feel like I can already recognize some of the symbols. Even though I'm far from learning anything meaningful, it's still fun.

You rock, duolingo!

Oh, the section where you are changing your language back (it really doesn't have to be anywhere else), can the language you speak be written in that language (English written as "English", Portuguese as "Português", Chinese as "简体中文".. [which I just found out means "Simplified Chinese"] , etc. regardless of the language the site is in) ? Basically, this page on the top right drop-down: https://www.duolingo.com/courses . It's not really necessary, but coming back from Chinese, I got lost. I can do it from Latin languages easy. Either way, now I know "English" in Chinese is "英语" and it's the second from the bottom in that list.

4/12/2014, 12:44:53 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Z.Shan
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I'll report this to Duo staff. Hopefully they can separate the course learning and the interface language, which means you'll be able to choose you own interface language regardless which course you're trying. I think this way your problem will be solved.

2014.04.12

4/12/2014, 2:39:29 AM

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Thank you.

.. and well, yes. That should be separated too, however, even then, when switching the site language, that list should be in the original languages that they say they are and unaffected by site language. The reason could simply be that people get curious and push buttons (I know I do it all the time). They should have a way to change the site settings back without having to learn a new language (if they weren't planning on it). This is a design that happens across the board with any company, and it makes no sense. If I'm looking to change the site settings to a language, the name should be in the language that it's going to. If I don't know that language, I probably shouldn't change to it.. however, if I do, at least I can see my own language and get back. I've done this on numerous devices and always had to keep selecting languages until I got to a Latin based one to find my way back to English. This is a website, so I was able to cheat with Google, but it's still bad practice as far as I'm concerned. When you change the language of the site to something, it will change everything, at least give them a taste by showing the name of that language in it's own language.

4/12/2014, 3:03:53 AM

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Congratulations to the team :)

4/12/2014, 3:09:32 AM

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Would be a shame if we deleted our accounts by accident instead of switching back to English.

4/14/2014, 1:24:56 AM

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Yeah exactly my case

4/12/2014, 1:54:47 AM

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Congratulations everyone who has been waiting for this course and so many thanks to the course contributors!!!! xD

4/11/2014, 8:55:20 PM

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I'm super excited to use the reverse course as Chinese grammar just seems to be made to be learned by Duolingo :)

4/11/2014, 9:50:04 PM

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Wonder how they'll tackle the tones though. Minimal pairs, maybe. Like "má mà mā mǎ ma" in a random order. Listen and type what you hear. This'll be hard.

4/12/2014, 12:31:09 AM

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It's not only the tones, the use of difficult syllables (e. g. the ones with x, j, ch, etc.) will also need some type-from-audio-training like you recommended :). Many students have really big problems with pronunciation as they can't distinguish the difficult syllables and the tones from another.

4/12/2014, 7:50:29 AM

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Listening and particularly speaking has always been challenging part for Duolingo to teach - I think this will be equally difficult. Thankfully on the reading/writing front, the characters in Chinese are usually different for each tone - so Duo will handle that perfectly.

4/12/2014, 3:12:39 PM

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5/23/2016, 2:11:26 AM

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I signed up! I need to learn how to read simplified...XD

4/11/2014, 11:21:03 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Chris.koch

remembr.it is actually great for that (except that you have to pay though...but the first 100 characters are for free :) )

4/12/2014, 6:00:51 PM

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ugh! I'm so ready to learn an Asian language!

4/12/2014, 1:30:31 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/SDPhil

If you want to learn Mandarin, I would suggest starting off with this website: http://www.fluentu.com/ . It allows you to see the hanzi and hear the word used in real sentences (from video). I've used it and liked it, but I lost interest in Mandarin because it was difficult to remember the tone for each word.

4/12/2014, 6:40:51 PM

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I will DEFINITELY check that out! THank you

4/12/2014, 8:25:51 PM

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WOW! I just watched the intro video - I'll definitely give this a try! Sounds wonderful!

4/14/2014, 8:29:43 PM

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5/23/2016, 2:11:32 AM

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喔!!!恭喜恭喜!!!!等到望穿秋水!!终于。。。终于。。。来了!!!都来了!!!! xD

finally here!!!!

4/12/2014, 1:43:18 AM

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其实我们都望穿秋水了,不过也担心要不要那么早出 Beta,就怕课程会出师未捷身先死呢……
So please, everyone, if you encounter any problems in the course, report them and we'll keep improving!!!

2014.04.12

4/12/2014, 2:44:26 AM

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我按了很多报告,有很多可以有别种答案可是你们给予错误。xD

4/12/2014, 2:51:27 AM

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Thank you!

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4/12/2014, 3:01:05 AM

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My god, yesterday according to the estimated time I thought they would not finish until tomorrow. Big thanks to all the contributors for working so hard on this from the beginning: libragold, chopin1810sy, Z.Shan, simonjay, fanqiuwen and sytang.

4/12/2014, 1:49:03 AM

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How can Chinese (Traditional) speakers help with this?

4/12/2014, 2:09:37 AM

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I'm a Traditional Chinese speaker. I imagine it's still helpful to contribute alternative answers? Also, makes me practice my Simplified Chinese script. :)

4/12/2014, 3:15:23 PM

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5/23/2016, 2:11:37 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/colaring

I think the translation of "lingots" and"XP" could be better! We can discuss it below. 我觉得对于 "lingots" 和"XP"的翻译可以更好一点,大家可以一起讨论一下! 我觉的“邻宝石”都比“邻角”好一点,“xp”不然就直接翻译成“经验值”?

4/12/2014, 12:52:05 PM

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谢谢你!可以移步 ”英语使用简体中文“ 或 ”疑难解答“ 这两版下给我们提意见。界面语句本来翻译得挺好的,‘XP’ 应该是翻译成 ”经验“ 的,但是系统内部把我们翻译的语句改掉了,然后我们现在也改不回来,所以就各种错误了,可能过了美国时间零点系统推送刷新后会有变化吧。仅靠我一人不能决定些什么,其他队员在美国时间可能还没起床……真的很感谢大家!!

2014.04.12

4/12/2014, 1:09:14 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/colaring

如果需要帮忙,可以加我当moderator,体力活的部分可以帮忙修改,辛苦了!

4/12/2014, 1:11:55 PM

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辛苦您了!

4/12/2014, 1:36:52 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

同意哦!

4/12/2014, 12:53:24 PM

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良珙? I don't know really, I'm just pulling characters off of google. The translation for lingot on duo looks weird... actually, what I wrote doesn't really translate in google, so I'm mostly guessing... it's probably best to stick with yours: "邻宝石".

4/12/2014, 10:13:31 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/play.better

Nope, "珙" is too rare. Actually, as a native Chinese speaker, I haven't seen it before. XD

4/13/2014, 2:36:23 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan
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I didn't think it would be common (due to lack of translations), but to be fair, in English, I've never really seen "lingot" before... although it is in use apparently and sounds like a more common word, so it's not really the same thing. At first, I just thought it was a combination of "language" and "ingot" (which it really is), but it's also a word.

4/13/2014, 7:11:14 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/play.better

The problem is that we can only see the character in Classical Chinese, it would be hard for us to read it out.

4/13/2014, 11:33:33 PM

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Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for explaining it.

4/14/2014, 1:18:40 AM

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5/23/2016, 2:11:54 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/colaring

Finally!!!Thanks for your efforts!!!!!!!!!

4/12/2014, 1:16:47 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/play.better

A congratulation from a Shenzhener! 深圳人民发来贺电!

4/12/2014, 1:51:26 AM

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Wishing for congratulations from all Chinese people! 希望全中国人民都发来贺电!

2014.04.12

4/12/2014, 2:46:34 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

因為很多答案都還未被收錄,在這階段要通關(走捷徑)確實是有點困難。不過小子我也會努力回報的。各位辛苦啊

4/12/2014, 6:03:27 AM

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Traditional Chinese!

4/12/2014, 1:00:36 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

Cause I am from Taiwan, too.

4/12/2014, 1:06:49 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MultiJojp

I'm studying Chinese is school right now and I am wondering if there is a chase that you will be introducing Chinese for English speakers? It would help me with my studies and I think a lot of people would enjoy learning Chinese!! :)

4/12/2014, 9:55:30 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchAddict7

That will probably happen in the future, the reverse course can take a little while after the first course is made. I want to learn Chinese too!

4/12/2014, 11:07:44 AM

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5/23/2016, 2:12:00 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/msciwoj

Great news, waiting for other way around, i.e. Chinese for English speakers. :)

4/13/2014, 4:04:08 PM

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Waiting for the same. It is kind of a pain to use the reverse course as you have to disable the audio (to avoid annoying robotic English) and look up the Pinyin for the characters through another source.

4/1/2016, 5:14:06 PM

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Awesome! I played around with it and was happy to see that they were acepting answers using Traditional chinese as well which is good because thats the skript I'm practicing. I wonder how long it will take to make a course with traditional characters? It seems like it should be really quick since the structure would be the same and the only changes would be a few characters here and there. Any thoughts on the possibility of a Traditional Chinese course being available soon (or after this course gets reversed)?

4/12/2014, 3:37:41 AM

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Traditional > simplified would be easy, but simplified > traditional is more difficult, since there are often words that are the same in simplified but actually different in traditional, so it would need some proofreading (e.g., zhi as a measure word for bird vs. zhi meaning "only").

4/14/2014, 4:53:58 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

Totally true, but I don't know why you got downvoted.

4/17/2014, 6:48:42 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/play.better

I think it would be very easy since Traditional Chinese characters can be easily transformed into Simplified Chinese characters. And what's more, you don't need to change anything besides that, their grammars are the same.

4/12/2014, 3:55:01 AM

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I'll ask Luis during the AMA.

4/12/2014, 4:47:19 AM

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Aaaaaaaaaah I'm so excited! Thank you to all of the contributors :)

4/12/2014, 5:18:57 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/fruitpower1988

Well done! 祝贺, 恭喜!Tough course to work on, can't imagine the amount of work it must have been!

That said, there's still a long way to go to get it out of beta - there's an issue to report with nearly every question, and that was just in the placement test. Some of the duo sentences in English test concepts that don't really work the same way in Chinese (e.g. distinctions between 'this', 'the', 'a', 'one') or vice versa (e.g. measure words for countable nouns), have really context dependent Chinese translations, or have very fixed sentence structure/morphology in English but a very fluid Chinese equivalent. I suspect you'll need a lot more accepted answers than for some of the languages where you can do a literal translation fairly easily. FWIW, 我按了很多次《报告》, 希望能把这门课程造得十分完美!

4/12/2014, 6:41:11 AM

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I have the same feeling. Me and my Chinese wife have been testing the course and it's a bit frustrating to lose so many hearts because so many valid answers are not accepted, but that's to be expected with a language so different from English. So far neither of us has been able to pass any of the shortcuts because of such issues.

Of course a lot of respect and gratitude to the Chinese team, but I also think they will have to process a lot of bug reports before the course can be considered stable. Keep up the good work!

4/12/2014, 12:49:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

I think they should allow more people to do the moderation, many of the users are so excellent that they should not be excluded from the team, and for me I failed at the attempt to pass the 3rd short cut button, so now I have to do my tree lesson by lesson......

4/12/2014, 12:51:47 PM

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Question: Once the reverse course is out, will there be a setting for traditional symbols? From my understanding it should be able to replace them 1:1, shouldn't it? Like just change 谢谢 to 謝謝 with an algorithm and have a button somewhere to change between the two or so. Or are there bigger differences like merged symbols and the such?

4/12/2014, 3:23:47 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

There is an option to contribute to Traditional Chinese, but I don't know why they don't release it(I've applied for it for 3 times)

4/12/2014, 3:31:41 PM

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How different are the two? If it's really just a one to one symbol swapping then it makes no sense to have two separated courses. Only if many common words or some important grammar is different I would split them.

4/12/2014, 4:05:44 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

usage are very different i have to say.. we dont use words they do. besides the writing system is of different logic. if they want to combine,they should allow some traditional chinese speakers to work as moderators.

4/12/2014, 4:09:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/boringtomi
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Je suis d’accord mon ami

4/12/2014, 4:15:39 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

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4/13/2014, 12:33:16 AM

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5/23/2016, 2:12:36 AM

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My post from above: Traditional > simplified would be easy, but simplified > traditional is more difficult, since there are often words that are the same in simplified but actually different in traditional, so it would need some proofreading (e.g., zhi as a measure word for bird vs. zhi meaning "only").

4/14/2014, 4:54:54 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/OliverLew
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But most of Chinese use simplified now and we can accept the different meanings. also, there are not so many characters which have completely different meanings. Simplified Chinese are mostly simplified in writing, which is actually a big help. Are you using traditional Chinese?

4/18/2014, 3:09:35 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

Well, that might be true, but I'd prefer diversity.

4/18/2014, 3:17:19 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/yentihw
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I'm familiar with both, since I grew up in a Taiwanese background but most of my friends and what I learned in uni used simplified. Yes, it is simpler to write, but it remains that there are groups of people who use Traditional. Just as Duolingo values even smaller, less-spoken languages, Traditional would also be something valuable that we can eventually implement.

4/18/2014, 3:33:50 PM

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So, the beta release was a year ago but the course has not yet graduated. How is the course doing? How many user reports are you getting? :) It's my favorite language so I'm really interested in being kept up-to-date, but it seems that the last incubator update was nine months ago. Greetings!

12/3/2015, 7:37:51 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Z.Shan
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Wow, time really flies, doesn't it? Our course has already been in beta for more than one year and a half! Here are the answers to some of your questions:

The course is doing well, much better than when we first got out of Phase 1.
The current number of reports per 100 users is fluctuating between 3 and 5. It has been like this for more than half a year already. (For your reference, courses only graduate from beta when the number drops below 3 and stay below 3 for a sufficient amount of time.)
We haven't started building or planning the reverse course yet, which I know is a pity to hear. I myself is very bummed reckoning that the reverse course is not happening anytime soon.

As soon as anything new happens, we will put up an announcement on our course page in the incubator for sure. Thank you!

2015.12.03 EST

12/3/2015, 8:10:38 AM

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Please, please, please make the reverse course. I'm looking forward to working with my mother-in-law on the English from Chinese course, but I would love to learn more Chinese as well as have the opportunity for many other people to learn this wonderful language.

A couple ideas I had for making it easier to program into duoLingo's framework are to...

Start with just simplified Chinese (the when the course is stable add a traditional character course using the framework of the simplified Chinese). Input the individual words using pinyin so that there isn't a problem with where words are divided. Don't worry about teaching people how to write characters (there are many other sources for learning to write characters if people are interested). Allow sentences to be inputted in either characters or pinyin (since pinyin is no more difficult to input than languages using accent marks for those who don't want to download a special "keyboard") Introduce the pinyin of a character, then the character itself (either in the same lesson or in the following lesson).

I wish I was more fluent in Chinese so that I could help out! I can have conversations with my mother-in-law but I'm still learning more and more words every day & am a very long ways from being fluent!

I'm so happy to hear that the English from Chinese team is planning to work on Chinese from English! Love to hear any updates in that regard...

1/15/2016, 6:19:21 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Z.Shan
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Knowing that there are users out there who are so eager to learn my mother language on Duolingo warms my heart.

I don't know if you paid attention to Luis's AMA on Quora a few days ago, but "Chinese for English speakers" course is officially confirmed not to be added anytime soon: https://www.quora.com/Will-Duolingo-offer-Chinese-as-a-language-anytime-soon. We all know what "not a priority" for Duolingo means.

I do understand what you are trying to depict, but a Chinese course without teaching users how to write characters is not the course we would like to create. And from my teaching experience, the more dependent the beginners are on pinyin, the more difficult it becomes for them to adjust to real Chinese texts later.

More importantly, I do not think Duolingo has ever asked the contributor team for an opinion on what kind of course we want to create. Duolingo has been testing things internally and has made the conclusion: "it involves a lot of work on our end to teach the character set and the tones." Therefore, before the contributor team has been able to get our hands on the project and brainstorm ideas, Duolingo has already decided to put the addition of a Chinese course on hold.

I wish I could change the CEO's mind, but really I think he might be right too. Although we never had the opportunity to prove him wrong, I highly doubt that we actually will.

2016.01.15 EST

1/16/2016, 4:17:14 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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In this case, I recommend the app ChineseSkill, which I've been using until the time Duolingo comes out with the reverse. It's a bit Duoesque, though probably not as good, but better than others I've tried.

5/3/2016, 1:25:48 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Z.Shan
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I believe ChineseSkill is a great app. Lots of my American friends who use it say it helps them a great deal.

2016.05.03 EDT

5/3/2016, 7:35:07 PM

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Thank you for linking to the post on quora. I was not familiar with that. I wonder if he's accurate about the interest in Chinese not being that high? It seems to me that a lot of people on here are interested in Chinese. The "What language should be offered next" it seems to be in almost a dead heat with Latin...

1/16/2016, 6:19:59 AM

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If it is within the United States, I'd say 1/10th the number of people who want to learn Spanish is about right. I think English speakers in Asia are more likely to have interest in learning Chinese, but they are not Duolingo's target users I'm afraid.

2016.01.16 EST

1/16/2016, 11:25:17 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Jana567614
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(It won't let me reply to your last post so I'm replying to my own...)

I agree with the 1/10th of the Spanish language interest among the general population in America. That said, duoLingo users aren't the "average Americans that want to learn a language". Most Americans want to learn Spanish because they live near the Mexican border, they have friends who immigrated from Mexico, they see signs written in Spanish, it's the most popular second language in the US, there are TV shows & radio programs offered for free in Spanish.

Most duoLingo users have a different drive. They might be introduced to duoLingo to learn a specific language, but they finish a tree and they say, "Hey, maybe I want to learn XXX too..." If you look at the "What language next" forum, there are a TON of people requesting Chinese which tells me that there truly is a lot of interest among the community members (for both Chinese and Latin which seem almost in a dead heat)...

I think it makes sense to wait until the English from Chinese is stabilized before beginning Chinese from English, but I hope that there's not much lag time between English from Chinese graduation and Chinese from English incubation...

1/17/2016, 6:35:53 AM

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Of course the characters should be included, ChineseSkill and HelloChinese can do it so why not Duolingo? While those apps are fine, I would prefer to use my computer to learn languages. Duolingo should seriously consider adding Chinese before someone beats them to it and make a desktop version.

4/1/2016, 5:10:54 PM

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5/23/2016, 2:12:49 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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Agreed!

1/15/2016, 2:32:25 PM

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I have been looking forward to the reverse course for a long time - I hope you manage to get out of beta soon. Is there any chance of getting more manpower to get the numbers down sooner?

12/16/2015, 5:05:07 PM

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Hello! I'm sorry that for some reason I missed your reply. More manpower also means more volunteers we need to show the ropes to, and we have to keep an eye on them. To be honest, there simply aren't that many good candidates sending in their applications, and unlike some other incubator team(s), our team take on new contributors very carefully.

2016.01.15 EST

1/16/2016, 3:59:21 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/edenludgate
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Well done to the contributors and good luck to the people who are going to challenge their minds

4/11/2014, 8:57:39 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/andrewmof

Congrats to everyone involved, great work!

4/12/2014, 12:37:47 AM

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Yes!!!!!!!! I'm now officially going to start running around in China recommending it to everyone!!

Update: Another side effect of this that I didn't even think about is now I can subscribe to the Chinese forums and start chatting with tons of people. XD

4/12/2014, 12:42:06 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/hannah3v3
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5/23/2016, 2:11:19 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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Chinese is one of the most requested languages, they're already bombarded with messages daily from people asking for it. If it was possible soon, they would do it, but they've already said not to expect it any time soon.

5/23/2016, 10:39:53 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Apparently the word used for Lingot means Adjacent angles...

4/12/2014, 12:16:05 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/play.better

In Chinese, "角jiǎo" can be also regarded as a unit of money, which means "ten cents"

4/12/2014, 2:17:49 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Thanks, I was wondering why they'd chosen that :)

4/12/2014, 2:52:36 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/hannah3v3
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5/23/2016, 2:12:54 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Dan_The_Man1912

We should be getting the reverse course pretty soon then, right?

4/12/2014, 9:20:53 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/saschambaer
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Let me guess: You're from Albania?

4/13/2014, 6:07:46 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Dan_The_Man1912

I don't know what gave it away... was it that Albania is in my username? Or was it the Albanian flag as my picture? Either way my cover is blown.....LOL. Yes i'm Albanian. Let ME guess, you're from SWITZERLAND?

4/19/2014, 1:03:40 PM

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perhaps, but it`s harder making the reverse course than this course

4/18/2014, 3:21:55 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence
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wo men duo ai shuo pu tong hua. Wo shi ying guo ren, ni xiang shi wo de peng you ma? dui bu qi, wo pu tong hua shou de bu hao :'(

4/13/2014, 12:38:55 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/WeiDeTaiwan

Perfect.

4/13/2014, 12:43:44 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/bcbrita

Nice :) understood it perfectly.

4/13/2014, 10:08:27 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/OliverLew
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quite well!

4/18/2014, 3:16:40 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/hannah3v3
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5/23/2016, 2:13:00 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/vpoetica

Interesting!

4/13/2014, 4:43:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Ratizi
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Why is no one updating the facebook and tumblr pages with this stuff? :P

4/15/2014, 4:51:09 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Sy_ing

Great Luis, please also make it happen on App. @_@

5/13/2014, 11:18:32 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/BuckStanley

When is this course actually available, and how to I help someone get started?

5/21/2014, 3:14:38 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Hi BuckStanley, courses are available once they read Phase 2. Anyone can sign up for the course as as a beta tester to help check it for errors. Once the course enters Phase 3, it is considered an official, non-beta course. However, people will continue to be able to submit error reports and alternative translation suggestions. :)

5/21/2014, 4:32:11 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/ExtremesarovaG

Great!

9/17/2015, 11:51:52 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/SF2.8

第250个赞

1/19/2016, 6:50:40 PM

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Just Perfected the First Lesson!

4/12/2014, 12:00:27 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Sy_ing

beta at last!

4/12/2014, 1:38:22 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/kirlll
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Awesome, I love the chinese name! =)

Well done all, congrats!

4/12/2014, 1:39:11 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/fiona917

hahahaha,thanks a lot !!! so cool

4/12/2014, 3:02:59 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/BobbieL
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Congrats to the English from Chinese team. Good work!

4/12/2014, 6:37:26 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/AbraxunsIllusion

Gives Simon, chopin, libragold and Carl_Shan a pat on the back.. Awesome job, guys :).

4/12/2014, 11:11:33 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/bcbrita

awesome! Though I wanna contribute :(

4/12/2014, 11:24:00 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/bcbrita

AHHHHH YES FINALLY WAITING FOR THIS LIKE FOR SO LONG

4/12/2014, 1:22:12 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/pRoXi6
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Wow that's fantastic news. I already speak Chinese so I'll go test it out. Thanks Luis and Duolingo. Love you guys.

4/12/2014, 3:05:51 PM

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Whoa, Chinese! A language I'll definitely pick up and start learning sooner or later. 謝謝、多邻国!:)

4/12/2014, 4:06:43 PM

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Using this course in reverse to learn Chinese even though it is a bit impractical. So when will there be a Chinese course for English speakers?

4/1/2016, 5:05:33 PM

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I'm using it the same way. And also to help my mother-in-law learn English (although I adapt it greatly for her as she can't read letters--doesn't even know pinyin).

When I first started on duoLingo I did a bit of research. It's hard for the way the duoLingo's background stuff is laid out right now to do non-latin based written languages as they don't have a good mechanic for teaching the alphabet.

For Chinese it's doubly hard because you would both have to teach PinYin (latin-based alphabet) plus characters (non-alphabetically based). I've been toying around in my mind how to work it out, but it really is quite a complicated scenario with duoLingo's current interface.

I think the best way would be to create a two stage teaching for each area. The first time through each level you would be learning the pinyin, the second time through you would be learning the characters. So first you'd have Basics 1 (PinYin) (and learn nan2ren2, etc). Then you'd have Basics 1 (characters) (and learn 男人, etc). It's necessary to teach PinYin since it's the easiest way to input characters & easiest for learning proper pronunciation. It's necessary to teach characters in order to be literate (I'd recommend creating it in simplified, then once the program is stable create a duplicate program--with a Taiwan flag--that has the traditional characters, but then the major bugs can be worked out only once). But they'd still have to create a mechanism to link the pinyin, character, and English together...

4/2/2016, 1:16:17 PM

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You should be able to type in proper Pīnyīn as well though. Or 汉字 for those who want to start with the characters right away. It really isn't that complicated, I have two apps for my phone for Chinese that is very similar to Duolingo and they work quite well. I think it would be better on Duolingo though as I really prefer using my laptop over my smartphone for learning languages.

4/2/2016, 5:34:25 PM

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I totally agree. The only reason I didn't do proper PinYin is because it's more challenging for me to do it with my keyboard than to do the numbered version...(much easier to do proper on my phone than my laptop...).

I think for input all of the above should be accepted, which is super simple with their current interface that allows for multiple acceptable answers (though it will be a bit of a pain to input....proper pinyin, numbered pinyin, characters--both traditional and simplified, along with all the variations on sentences...). I was mainly thinking the the teaching component dividing the teaching into two parts as to teach the pinyin first & then do a repeat lesson teaching the characters (so the sentence patterns are already familiar and you're just learning the characters attached to the pinyin you've learned). I think the current interface would make it difficult to create a toggle mechanism like many of the other apps currently have (toggle pinyin, traditional, or simplified or a variation there of). The input should accept anything unless asked specifically to input the pinyin or to input the characters...(and sometimes it would be good to input pinyin as I can "cheat" when I input characters by not really have a good foundation on tones).

4/4/2016, 1:39:39 PM

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Sign our petition?

4/30/2016, 12:45:13 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/james.ray1
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So the English for Chinese speakers is now a full course, not in beta. May we please get an estimate for a timeframe for development of an English for Chinese speakers course, e.g. milestones and dates?

10/1/2016, 10:02:46 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/alex607644

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3/7/2017, 6:04:21 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/alex607644

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3/7/2017, 6:05:09 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/alex607644

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3/7/2017, 6:06:40 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Laf2

3 years ago

11/7/2017, 7:20:51 PM

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improvement 1: the comments in tips and notes: chinese is not english and grammatical there is no any evidence of correspondence between these two languages. I understand it is much more complicated to construct these lessons than other languages because of the symbols for words in Chinese. I learned from other sources (and also see at the beginning) that sometimes verbs are skipped (ni hao you good) and we are looking for verbs in sentences and are not there, so confusing when you have to construct sentences yourself). 2. you cannot put the explanation of tips and notes with the lessons (until you make some effort for copying and pasting in a separate document and keep it with the lessons). Maybe better to include these explanations (signs who do not have a meaning for a learner needs more effort to learn than when the meaning is known). Tips and notes: maybe you can start with a bit insight of the chinese grammar (is very simple but very different with English). 3. Tones, as i understood from other sources, can change the meaning of the symbol (character) so in that way it is important to know also the tone. But, in sentences there is not so much emphasis in it and you can sense the meaning of the word (character) in the context of the sentence. I see some remarks of learners that they do not understand it well and that is a pity for all the good work you have done so far (thanks a lot for it).

2/17/2018, 9:38:11 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MaggieBede

How can I access this course?

2/3/2019, 12:56:43 PM
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