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"Wann frühstückt ihr?"

Translation:When do you eat breakfast?

January 15, 2018



pronunciaton of the verb "frühstücken" is wrong. There is a problem with the "s". It should sound as in the word "stark", but it is pronounced as in the word "Senf".


Yes, in Standard German, „frühstückt“ is pronounced [ˈfʁyː·ʃtʏ·kt], not [ˈfʁyː·stʏ·kt], because „Frühstück“ is a compound of „früh“ “early” + „Stück“ “piece”, so the ‹st› is syllable-initial.

Historically, the palatalisation of /st/ ⇾ [ʃt], /sp/ ⇾ [ʃp], /sn/ ⇾ [ʃn], /sm/ ⇾ [ʃm] at the beginning of a syllable began in the southern highlands, and spread northward in the Middle High German era, roughly to the latitude of central Düsseldorf.

So in northern dialects, „frühstückt“ is still pronounced [ˈfʁyː·stʏ·kt].


Why is thr second ü in the word not pronounced like a typical ü?


Why is thr second ü in the word not pronounced like a typical ü?

All German simple vowels (i.e. not diphthongs) come in pairs: "long" and "short".

Except for "a" and "ä", the "long" version is not only pronounced for a longer time, but also sounds different than the "short" version.

The first vowel in frühstückt is a (typical) "long ü", the second one is a (typical) "short ü".

Both are "typical ü".


How do you know if a vowel is short or long?


How do you know if a vowel is short or long?

The best way is to look up the pronunciation of the word in a dictionary.

The Latin alphabet that German inherited doesn't have enough vowel letters for each of German's vowel phonemes, so short and long vowel sounds are represented by the same letters -- unfortunately for learners.

In native German words, a long vowel can only occur in the stressed syllable.

There are also some other clues such as writing double consonants after a short vowel (even when the consonant is not pronounced twice) -- compare English "taping" versus "tapping", so also in German Raten (instalments -- long a) versus Ratten (rats -- short e), for example.


Yes, it sounds like a sailor from Hamburg would say it lol.


Why is "ihr" used instead of "du" or "Sie"?


Because the speaker is talking to several people whom he or she knows well.

„du“ would have been used if the speaker had been talking to just one person, and „Sie“ if the speaker did not know the person or people well.


Ihr is a nominative pronoun (2nd person plural). Remember "Ihr seid....." from the basics. I was confused, too, because 90% of the practice before this skill does not use 2nd person plural subjects.


My answer was "when do you breakfast" - acceptable English. This was marked incorrect and the "correct" answer given was "when do you've breakfast". This is unacceptable - at least in contracted form. Expanded as "when do you have breakfast" is correct. My use of breakfast as a verb is OK and was accepted in other questions with "du" and "sie". Why not with "ihr"?


You are right. Breakfast in English can be used as a verb or a noun.


Since when is that acceptable English? Maybe it's a British thing? I would be much more likely to hear "When do you have breakfast?" or "When do you eat breakfast?". Never heard of it being used as a verb.

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    Perfectly fine American English. I hear it all the time. While it's more common to hear "breakfast is at 7:00," it's not at all unusual to hear "we breakfast at 7:00."


    Strange, I'm from the northeast US and have never heard it used as a verb


    The word literally means to break fast. It is verb phrase that has been turned into a noun as well. It is antiquated to use the verb phrase now.

    The noun is still used as verb on occasion. Usually, it is when someone is discussing a schedule to be followed by a group.

    eg: We breakfast at seven. The transportation for our group to the airport arrives at eight, so be ready.


    Call me old-fashioned but i believe it should be "when do you break fast" :D mind that gap

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      In English the word is almost never broken into two words. "When do you breakfast?" should be accepted, but not "When do you break fast?" You might also say, "When do you break your fast?" but that's not a translation of this German sentence.


      "When do you break your fast" IS a translations of the the sentence "Wann frühstückt ihr". It's old language, yet correct. Nowadays, breaking one's fast usually refers to something else.


      Always mind the gap

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      The pronunciation is wrong! It should be "sh" in the middle not "s".


      Yes, it is right. I reported it again as a bad audio quality.


      Why is "When are you breakfasting?" incorrect for "Wann frühstückt ihr?"


      It is correct, albeit a very infrequent phrasing (at least in some parts of the English-speaking world). You can report it.


      I must ask the same question, this is perfectly acceptable British English, albeit a little old fashioned, it is a turn of phrase I have used on numerous occasions.


      There is nothing wrong with breaking fast. No one disputes that it is grammatically correct.

      The problem is that the German sentence uses a simple verb. Your sentence uses a present participle. You inserted a form of the verb to be and added ing to the main verb. All perfectly fine as long as you don't claim it is a direct translation of the German example.


      deutsche audio übersetzung: "frühstückt" wird aber mit ..sch...nicht ..st... ausgesprochen.


      Vielleicht sprechen wir auch mit nem Hamburger Bürger? :x


      The pronunciation is not correct. It should be "früSHtückt" instead of "früStückt".


      Die Aussprache beim Wort frühstücken ist total falsch! St und Sp soll man als SCH aussprechen und nicht als S.


      We know. However, in the north, it is possible. See mizinamo’s explanation above upthread.


      I answered, when is your breakfast, because no one I know would ever consider breakfast a verb.


      I didn't know this myself, but apparently it can be used as a verb. Have a read of other comments.


      to breakfast is a verb - it perfectly good English. Read Victorian novels.


      In England we would say when do you have breakfast, or when do you eat breakfast.


      Is 'have breakfast' an acceptable translation? In the USA I would usually say 'when are you having breakfast' instead of 'when are you eating breakfast.'


      why can't, "When does she eat breakfast?" be used?


      why can't, "When does she eat breakfast?" be used?

      Because the subject of this sentence is ihr (you -- several people) and not sie (she).


      How is frühstück correctly pronounced? I learned it as fruštuk (š=sh) but the audio says frustuk


      Yes, with sh. Audio is wrong with s


      And now a second try with bab.la - here can you hear a correct audio of "Frühstück":



      Bazd meg , nem "früsztükt " hanem "früstükt" - megmondta a kislányom is hogy a "t" előtt nem ejtünk "sz"-t német nyelven hanem "s" hangot ...IDEGESÍTŐ !!!


      Can I just say that I love the fact that in German they say "I am breakfasting." instead of "I am eating breakfast".

      Quirky and efficient. Glee over.


      When are you breakfasting? What's wrong with that?


      I wrotte "When do you breakfast ?" And it was accepted


      Why not Frühstücken?


      Because that's the wrong verb form for ihr -- ihr verb forms almost always end in -t. (ihr esst, ihr trinkt, ihr frühstückt, ...)


      My answer keeps being marked wrong


      What answers have you tried so far?


      On mine, she was only saying "wann früstückt" and not the "ihr"


      Wann vs wenn? I've heard both used before on here but they don't seem to be interchangeable when used for "when" questions. Could someone explain?


      Wenn... is not used for asking questions; it’s a subordinate conjunction that is used like “whenever”, “if”, or “when X..., then Y..” Wenn es heute regnet, gehen wir morgen zum Park.

      Wann...? is the question word for asking about time: When does the museum open? When is the train coming? When are you going to the party?


      I don't have any sound ... is it happening for anyone else too ??


      If your sound card, operating system, browser, service provider connection, or any intervening steps back to Duo are overloaded they will strip out non essential information. They might strip out the sound or the image depending on the bandwidth issues involved.

      Your comment here is about the same as saying ....the only light I have on in my room just went out....did anyone else's light go out too? ....

      A better question would be.....All other browser sound inputs are working fine on this device right now. But Duo is not, even though I restarted this browser and trying other browsers after waiting for them to fully load. Still no sound and it has been going on for quite a while.........


      Rather than have the dodgy double verb of eating breakfast, why not use breakfasting, ive heard people use it similar to lunch and the old formal dining for having dinner.


      Terrible pronunciation


      Because DL has previously failed me for "When do you breakfast? " I tried "When do you take breakfast? " ... it failed me on that too.


      i got it wrong too for "When do you take breakfast?" - annoying, but i'm not sure i should report it. :I


      I am not an native English speaker, but I cannot find "take breakfast" as a translation for "frühstücken". Pons-online gives only the translations (copy):

      • frühstücken - to have [one's] breakfast

      • frühstücken - to breakfast


      It should be a capital I in Ihr for it you mean You?!?!? Is Duo wrong?


      It should be a capital I in Ihr for it you mean You?

      No. Lowercase ihr is correct. (And lowercase "you" in English.)


      Why not wenn?


      Why not wenn?

      Because we're asking a direct question here.


      "Wann frühstückt ihr" means "When are you breakfasting". To say "When are you eating breakfast?" would be "Wann isst ihr Frühstück?"


      *esst: du isst, aber ihr esst. :)


      I put "when do y'all eat breakfast?" and it didnt work. Is there a reason?


      I think that I may be the only one who translated this as "When does she eat breakfast ?". My thinking now is that "ihr" is in the accusative, so if I wanted it to mean "she", that it would have to end in "sie". Is that correct?


      My thinking now is that "ihr" is in the accusative

      It is not. It's the subject of the verb frühstücken, so it's in the nominative case.


      As soon as I read your comment, it made everything clear. Thanks!


      It’s not “she”. As a subject, ihr is the plural of du —> it’s the second person plural, and its verbs end in -t.

      Wann frühstückt ihr? = “When do you (pl.) have breakfast?”


      Could this also mean "When does she eat breakfast?" Or would that be "Wann frühstuckt sie"?


      That would be Wann frühstückt sie?.

      In the nominative, ihr is the plural of du. Wann frühstückt ihr? = “When do you (pl., inf) eat breakfast?”


      When are y'alI having breakfast? I was taught 'y'all' for 'ihr', but didn't dare write it because I didn't want it to mark it incorrect! This usage is used by millions of people in the American South. I implore Duolingo to add 'y'all' and 'you all' to acceptable answers!


      I doubt they will. Duo uses standard forms of languages by default rather than regional variants. They don’t include Bayerisch, Schwyzerdeutsch, or Plattdeutsch words in German, and they don’t include expressions such as och aye, g’day, ayup, or y’all in English.

      Going by population alone, there are some 25 million people in Australia— so if Duo doesn’t offer “g’day” as a translation for Guten Morgen, they’re not going to offer “y’all” as a translation for ihr.

      Just use “you”, and it’ll be fine. [Fun fact: English “you” has always been the pronoun for 2nd-person plural; it only started being used as 2nd-person singular when the singular pronoun “thou” disappeared back in the 1700s].


      'Eat' is not necessary in English.


      Why "are you going to eat" instead of "do you eat" does not work?


      Because “When are you going to eat...?” is asking about a future action. The original sentence, and the English translation, “When do you eat...?” is asking about the person’s usual, regular, habitual actions.


      At what hour do you breakfast? Not accepted. Petty.


      At what hour is not in the Duo example. Neither does the example mean what your answer indicated. Nor does your phrasing represent regular conversational style in English. However your answer is otherwise grammatically correct.


      When do you EAT breakfast??? Where's eat in the German sentence then?


      frühstücken is a verb that means “to eat breakfast”.


      I'm not sure why Mizinimo was down voted. "Frühstücken" Is a verb that means "to eat breakfast", as he stated. The only thing he didn't mention is that the verb changes depending on what you are applying it to. It all depends on who's eating. "Wir frühstücken", "ihr frühstückt", etc. Strangely enough, my autocorrect didn't want me to write "frühstückt"... But I believe Mizinimo is a native German speaker, so it must be right.


      I suppose you could say "When do you breakfast?". But this is rarely said anymore. This is why learning a language is also a cultural experience and not just a word for word exchange.


      With respect, you and the people that you know well might not use this turn of phrase. My friends and family and I do:

      "Shall we breakfast?" "Let's not breakfast today, we have a huge lunch later." ... and so-on.

      I'm very bad at German but I am tolerably competent when it comes to my mother tongue, English. I am sure that people don't mean to annoy but I cannot help feeling a little peeved when I am told that the constructions that I use, perfectly correctly, are "archaic" or "uncommon". I speak as English people speak.

      ... and I breakfast.


      For the benefit of non native English speakers on this thread, using breakfast as a verb is uncommon in contemporary English. People whose breakfast consists of grabbing a coffee and a pop tart before rushing out the door not only would never use breakfast that way but have never heard it and would think it very odd.

      People who plan having breakfast and allocate time to have it with others ensuring that it is a full meal and an important social experience might be more inclined to use the term. People who regard breakfast as necessary but consider it a distraction, would be puzzled by hearing breakfast as a verb.

      It is very much a class based speech pattern. The more likely you are to change into clothing appropriate for each meal the more likely you are to use the term.


      I generally have the feeling that people underestimate the amount of variety in any given language. We know what we and those around us actually speak like, and we know the "standard" prevalent in mass media -- but unless we travel a lot, have friends from different backgrounds or a job with many contacts, a large majority of one's native language's variations will just sound "funny" to people.


      Too true. I give you Geordie, Brummy, Westcountry, Yorkshire, Scouse... all are accents from England alone and people around England with one of these accents or others have problems understanding the rest. And that’s without mentioning the varying accents of Ireland, Wales and Scotland. Oh good Lord you habe not lived until you’ve tried to decipher a Glaswegian accent (Scottish) . Geordie shares a lot with that a cent and is notorious for being one of the hardest English accents to understand.


      We don’t seem to ‘breakfast’ in English but we do sometimes say “shall we luncheon” if we are trying to be posh and funny.


      I mean me and the cleverer kids in my primary school classes all made the connection of “breaking-fast” as in breaking the fast between 6pm and 6am. We all assumed it came from older phrases. Whoch I think it does considering how much German, french and latin make up English.

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