How are you finding your Korean language journey?
Since starting your mission on learning Korean how have you found it? What inspired you to learn it in the first place? how has duolingo been in assisting your learning what other materials have you found invaluable in your learning? how have you sustained your motivation have you ever found yourself really lacking motivation for Korean because of its notoriety to be difficult?
lastly where do you see your Korean language skills taking you in the future ?
I wanted to try learning Korean for fun, because it seemed to be liked by so many people and my co-workers who were studying Japanese made language learning seem like fun (something I never experienced in school). I took a couple of courses in the beginning and I thought that just knowing some basic sentences would be more than enough. But once I noticed the results of studying, like when I started to notice that I could make my own sentences, I got so inspired by it that I wanted to know more. On top of that my course mates introduced me to kpop and I made it my goal to understand some simple tweets from idols etc. While aiming to my goal I found more things that I want to be able to understand: news, tv shows, game streamers, social media comments... So even though I now understand simple tweets etc I'm still not happy. ^^' That keeps pushing me forward.
In the beginning I felt like I was making progress really fast because everything was new. Learning the past tense conjugation was a huge step forward after being able to conjugate verbs only in the present tense. But after a while things start making less difference, I guess. This creates a plateau effect and it feels like you're not making any progress at all even though you are, just not that fast. And it's really unmotivating. I get that feeling once in a while and I still don't know what to do with it. Should I take a break or find new ways to study? I don't know...
Korean has much in common with my native language, Finnish, so I guess it hasn't been that hard for me as it is for someone who is learning it with a different kind of language backround. Not to mention that coming from a non-English-speaking country I've already gone through the language learning process with English and Swedish. It would be cool if that backround helped me to help others but I'm not always sure how to utilize it or put it forward.
Hei! Mitä kuuluu? :D
Am so glad you are actively putting what you've learned in action. The below are my recommendations to watch. Hope you enjoy! ;p No need to understand 100% but I bet you will pick up a lot more than you originally anticipated.!
How have you found it (your Korean language journey)?
I started off by teaching myself to read and that was so complex and difficult at the beginning, it honestly felt like I was never going to improve. When I came across this hurdle it was so reflective of what the journey was going to be like. I googled how to improve my reading and everything just said "it takes time". So I read every day for a month, and then I started reading slow slow song lyrics to keep up with until I improved my reading. When I started the semester course, I was already at a good reading speed to keep up with the class. I excelled in it, but throughout the course it felt so much like we were just being taught what tourists would be taught. I felt like that had to be the building blocks of a language--getting around and sentence structures, but in the end we didn't really even learn how to say: "Next week I'm going to the shops with my friend Celine to buy some groceries." We learn a few things to put together to make that kind of sentence, and our final test was so short, I really felt like by saying it was "optional" it was made that if you took it, it was so easy. Where I really struggle is in speaking and recalling the sentence structures on the fly. I find if I can speak to someone often it will get easier, but I don't have that opportunity. Now I'm just studying online before the next course starts, or before I actually decide whether to take level 2 or guide myself.
How has Duolingo been in assisting your learning what other materials have you found invaluable in your learning?
I personally find Duolingo such a hindrance to me. It doesn't explain anything on the app. You're just playing a matching game. The desktop version is better and even then I would have to use other apps to supplement the vocabulary learning (I can't even remember what I learnt this morning), and other websites to explain the grammar structure. I have gotten books from TTMIK, a few apps from the app store (free), and have been using HowToStudyKorean since I finished the course at uni.
How have you sustained your motivation?
I'm internally very competitive. I hate contests but I want to be better than other people. lol
Have you ever found yourself really lacking motivation for Korean because of its notoriety to be difficult?
I feel so jealous of people who have been learning the language for longer and can speak like native Koreans. I try my best to just not look at what they post so I don't feel like I'm floundering. I find it hard to define goals even trying to form something with the SMART method. So I just kinda do the same thing every day and that helps me keep up a routine to keep motivated and try to form more difficult sentences myself. Whenever I feel like not studying, I'll just listen to Korean music or something. I also really hate when people say "oh you don't get this, this is so easy!" - people struggle with different things and it's so ignorant to say that and discount their experiences. I also end up arguing with other learners online about sentences where I am suggesting a better way to go about something and they discount me because I am also learning.
One thing I think you can always use is other learners.
G'day, mate! :D Absolutely love your story! Well, I believe listening is closely connected to one's ability to speak (which consist of lots including brain's ability to recall and use right expression at the right time) Thus even there aren't many Koreans near you, I think you can improve a lot from watching videos and listening to all kind of stuff on the web.
It is funny to spot that your Korean class try not to touch somewhat complex sentences lol Well, I recently read a book written by a Korean medical doctor who started learning 4 different languages in his late 50s. He managed to reach B2 in all 4 (French, Spanish, Japanese, Chinse) and his biggest headache was that he could not find advanced French courses in Korea since there is very little demand. lol I mean many Korean students who are learning French actually move to French-speaking countries once they reach intermediate so there is little domestic demand left for advanced courses. lol
I am a native speaker but am doing Korean for English speaker as by doing so I can leave many useful tips for all learners. While I was learning French, a lot of helpful tips left by French native speakers helped me a lot so I would like to do the same here. Hope this helps. :D p.s: Quick Qs:
Q1: Since you already had some exposure in Japanese, does your Japanese help in learning Korean? (i.e. Kanji for example)
Q2: Forgive my ignorance but what is SMART method? Is that similar to SOI (Short, Often Intensive) perhaps?
Q3: How much do you understand written Korean? For example:
Q1. Some words are the same in Japanese as in Korean but having learnt japanese as a child I remember almost nothing now.
Q2. Specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, timely goals.
Q3. Still just a beginner so pretty much nothing.
I should really add that here in Aus, you can do diplomas in language and do a degree with a language minor, but independently, you can study language through IML at one of the large unis in Brisbane. Unfortunately! Korean only goes to level 3, but Japanese and Chinese go to level 7.
Oh dear! So you are a Queenslander just like Kevin Rudd. lol
For intermediate and advanced courses, you might find this interesting. http://korean.sogang.ac.kr
Furthermore, I think there must be MOOCs on the Korean language itself. Quickly found one here but there should be more: https://www.coursera.org/learn/learn-speak-korean1 https://www.yskli.com/_en/default.asp
Alternatively, you can take MOOCs in Korean provided by Korean universities on topics you like. It might be a little difficult but you can rely on English subtitles and you can also enlarge your Korean vocabulary.
Hope this helps. :D
I find it enjoyable. It is much more logical (and a little more intuitive) than english in my opinion. However, I struggle with pronunciation. I have Korean friends and I also want to learn a few languages in my life. I just do a bit a day, every day, and miss 0 days. Sometimes I miss a day on duolingo but thats because I've studied in a different way for that day. I'm traveling to korea this summer (3 months wohoo!) and I'm going to walk around reading signs and speaking to Koreans like a crazy person. It's a pretty cool place and I'm excited to go!
Yes indeed! :D I mean it seems exactly like doing your daily stretching or warming up exercise for your physical health. A good way to keep our brain (and perhaps mind too) healthy! Regarding the pronunciation, you will get there. Hope you take it easy. http://bit.ly/2Dz5w8v P.S: In case you are visiting during the summer, check them out: https://youtu.be/R49QnNVDQxg
Since starting your mission on learning Korean how have you found it?
It's cool. At least I found a new vocabulary in my busy days...
What inspired you to learn it in the first place?
Actually, I have crush since I was a college student (not anymore :( ) that also learn Korean. At that time I was not even have "a glance" to Korean because of I don't think I will use it. But now, I work in a joint project between Indonesia and South Korea, and I am glad I choose this language...
how has duolingo been in assisting your learning what other materials have you found invaluable in your learning?
at least new word everyday...
how have you sustained your motivation have you ever found yourself really lacking motivation for Korean because of its notoriety to be difficult?
I am really eager to learn East Asian Languages (but for now, only Japanese and Korean :P) and I found a really "unique rule" in pronounciate hangeul (assimilation, I think). I try to master that. Beside, I also teach my community fellas about Korean Language. That's why I need to " do not lose" my motivation :D
Awesome! BTW. Why not Chinese but Japanese? :D Personally I think Japanese seems quite tough since you have to learn hiragana katakana & kanji. Recently I tried both languages in Duo and found Chinese a lot easier than Japanese. I might be wrong but my initial impression was that one needs to memorize a lot more with Japanese than Chinese.
I found Korean strange, letters are of different shapes and must take ifferent forms when put together. What inspires me is the fact that North Korea is a scary, closed country. What I've found invaluable is... maybe none, because I discontinued learning here because there's a North Korean course in memrise. I have sustained my motivation by knowing more about Pyongyang, and of course, North Korean politics.
Where do I think my Korean skills would take me? Of course, one of the countries of my bucket list, North Korea, I won't bother going to South, I'm already fed up with what's in it, time to venture the unventured path.
I've only just started learning Korean, and I'm having so much fun! My primary motivation is being able to read manhwa, and, in some distant future, books in Korean. I'm kind of obsessed with learning to read and understand authentic texts in different languages, so this motivation will hardly disappear anytime soon. I would also like to visit both Koreas, and would be happy to reach a level sufficient for doing translation jobs. English to Russian is such a common pair, but Korean to Russian? Competition is surely lower :D So far I'm fascinated with how logical the Korean alphabet is. Even the Korean keyboard is super-logical in its placement of characters! The only thing that scares me is pronunciation, but then, speaking has never been my strong point even in my native language, so I'm not going to fret about it too much. Written speech all the way >:)