"We will go over there, even though we are tired."

Translation:On ira là-bas, bien qu'on soit fatigués.

January 31, 2018

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Do you have to use 'on' in such a sentence, or can 'nous' be used?


You can use "nous."

Nous irons là-bas, bien que nous soyons fatigués.


Why did we use the verb "etre" instead of "avoir"?


You use être with "fatigué". Moi, je suis fatiguée. In French it is a state of "being," unlike hunger (faim), thirst (soif), hot (chaud), cold (froid)... with those descriptions you would use "avoir."

There is no easy way to know, it's just one of those things that you have to memorize since these things are expressed differently in French.


Fatigués? Pourquoi pluriel ici?


When "on" refers to "one" in general it stays singular and masculine. However, when the people involved are specified you can make the accords. Hence fatigués, fatiguées, and fatigué are all accepted as correct.

Here is what the Académie Française has to say on the matter:

Il arrive pourtant que on ne désigne pas les hommes en général, des personnes indéterminées, mais telle ou telle personne : dans ce cas, l’accord se fait tout naturellement en genre et en nombre.

C’est le sens qui commande, et le goût. On s’était fâchés ; On s’est séparées à regrets ; On est allés ensemble jusqu’au bout du chemin... ne sont donc pas des tournures fautives.



Apparently one cannot use both "On" and "Nous" in the same sentence? I was marked incorrect for writing: " On ira là-bas, bien que nous soyons fatigués"

Any info//help regarding this construction gratefully received! :]



No, you cannot mix "on" and "nous" in the same sentence when you are referring to the same group of people. In fact, they shouldn't be mixed in the same paragraph.

"Nous" is more formal but it is appropriate in all contexts.
"On" is more casual and more common in oral language.


Why do you say "la-bas" rather than "la" (assuming that "over there" isn't literally down)?


Là-bas means "over there" http://larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/l%C3%A0-bas/45696
(It can also mean "down there".)


Right. It's just an expression. Just like "over there" isn't necessarily "over".


why can't we use "on va aller la-bas"?


"On va aller" is the futur proche and describes near events. "We are going to go..." in English. "We will go" is the futur and translates to "on ira" or "nous irons." These events are not necessarily in the near future.


I wrote the translation DUO lists, On ira là-bas, bien qu'on soit fatigués the first time through and was marked wrong. The following translation was required: On ira la-bas bien que l'on soit fatigués. Can you explain please?


That is bizarre. If it happens again could you please get a screenshot?

"On ira là-bas bien que l'on soit fatigués" is also correct, but your answer should have been accepted.

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It seems I consistently trip up on the use of "aller + infinitive" versus the simple present, since I never really figured there was a true difference between them in meaning. But then I got this wrong for writing "On va aller" rather than "On ira." Can someone break down the difference for me?

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