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t-d merger

Is it just me or are a lot of words beginning with a 't' pronounced like they begin with a 'd'?

For example

  • turista
  • tea

These words all sound like they begin with 'd' when pronounced by the native speakers on Duo and other rival websites.

February 11, 2018

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Krisbaudi

Yes, it is sometimes difficult to hear the difference between t and d in the lessons. I was marked wrong several times, because I understood for example dél instead of tél.

February 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/akilleyca.48

In English t (at the beginning of a word) is pronounced with a little puff of air, in Hungarian it isn't which can make it sound like d to English speakers.

February 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpells

These words all begin with a t sound, as they are written. https://forvo.com/search/To/hu/

February 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/KaiChiu1

In the first example of tó it sounds like dó

February 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpells

Oh, hmmn.. I suppose everyone hears things differently. (I have alot of trouble distinguishing between the spanish b and v sounds) I would say try a slightly sharper t sound than we might be used to in most english words. Try pronouncing it with a t as in the English word tongue rather than the t in the english word tomorrow, but I am not a linguist. It is definately t, however.

February 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/akilleyca.48

"(I have alot of trouble distinguishing between the spanish b and v sounds)"

there is no difference between b and v in Spanish (some Spanish speakers insist there is but... no linguist agrees with them both are pronounced like b in some contexts and in others the lips don't quite touch (making it sound a little like v)

February 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/peter.kristof.hu

You certainly hear it wrong (maybe it's a TTS). Their pronunciation is [t]. Hungarian is an almost phonetic language, the only exception is the so-called 'pronunciation assimilation', see here, so it's possible for example, futball [ˈfudbɒlː] = soccer.

February 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/KaiChiu1

No matter how hard I listen, it's still confusing:

https://forvo.com/word/t%C3%A9l/#hu

The first one is clearly 'tél' but the other two could easily be misheard as 'dél' surely?

February 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/peter.kristof.hu

The third one (Pronunciation by csanye) is not too clear. But compare it with this:
https://forvo.com/word/d%C3%A9l/#hu
I think this type of problem occurs in each language. You can rely on the context.

February 13, 2018
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